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Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey, profile picture

As I scroll through the news this morning I am saddened to read the details of the horrible tragedy in Oregon. My heart goes out to the citizens of Roseburg -- especially the families and loved ones of those murdered.

The recent spike in mass shootings across the nation is truly troubling. Whether the perpetrators are motivated by aggressive secularism, jihadist extremism or racial supremacy, their targets remain the same: Christians and defenders of the West.

While this is not the time for widespread panic, it is a time to prepare. I would encourage my fellow Christians who are serious about their faith to think about getting a handgun carry permit. I have always believed that it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

Our enemies are armed. We must do likewise.

https://www.tn.gov/safety/article/handgunmain

NYPOST.COM

Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage

A gunman singled out Christians, telling them they would see God in “one second,” during a rampage at an Oregon college Thursday that left at least nine innocent people dead and several more wounde...
Suzanne Cathey Kay, profile picture
Suzanne Cathey Kay
This is not the way that I as a Christian was raised and not true my beliefs. Instead of encouraging every man, woman and child to arm themselves we should be calling out our legislators for being too weak to stand up to the "charity" that is the NRA and recognize that there can be effective gun control without infringing on our "by Gawd" right to bear arms. A citizen is vetted for psychological soundness before being allowed to join the armed forces where there is controlled access to the same weapons your neighbor can get without even a background check. What is wrong with America? It's certainly not lack of guns.
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David Madeira, profile picture
David Madeira
Yes, just like Jesus defended himself against Pilate (not), John the Baptist defended himself against Herod (not), Stephen defended himself against the Jewish leaders (not), Paul defended himself against the Romans (not), and the innumerable martyrs of the early church now revered as saints for their willingness to die for their faith defended themselves against persecution (NOT). This is unbiblical, ahistorical, and antithetical to the gospel, Mr. Ramsey. Christians worship JESUS, not guns, and not the NRA.
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Kelly Sullivan, profile picture
Kelly Sullivan
He is right! I cant believe that some of you cant see whats happening here! Obama was raised and schooled by Radicals,, THey HATE CHRISTIANS! These shootings are intentional so Obama can convince us, of how bad guns are.. TO DISARM US so we cant defend ourselvers. Obama was born, raised and conditioned to do this mission. To destroy The United States of America without using a single bullet. He is affliiated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Other than martyr and mayhem, they use lies, deception, symbols, numbers, patterns, and colors to convey messages to other muslims.Their goal is to change the whole world to Islam..even if my forced conversion. You dont believe me? Look it up. You all are going to wish you were armed when they tell you to bow to Alla or get your throat slashed. Its about to get serious! This is the beginning of the end. Thank you Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey for speaking out about this.
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Em Turner Chitty, profile picture
Em Turner Chitty
Lt. Gov. Ramsey issued his call to Christians to arm themselves based on the mistaken belief that the Oregon shooter targeted Christians. It turns out, the Oregon shooter shot everyone, regardless of their religion. But he told the Christians to pray. Sweet guy. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/04/us/oregon-umpqua-community-college-shooting/
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Debra Lynn Radford-Boehmer, profile picture
Debra Lynn Radford-Boehmer
We need our guns to protect ourselves, our home and those around us.. I agree with Ron Ramsey... I wish our Senators was all on the same page about citizens being armed for protection.. and every state to honor the Conceal Carry Weapon of each and ever state... Gun Law's are different in each state, therefore making travel a issue.. America needs Ron Ramsey for President.. he would have my vote as well as many other gun owning American's!!
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David Illig, profile picture
David Illig
The shootings in Oregon weren't about Christians or Christianity. They were killings by a deranged man. I would think that you would want to advocate more money for the identification and treatment of mental illness and tighter controls on who can buy a gun rather than advocating that Christians begin shooting persons who appear to be non-Christian—which is what you are really advocating. We have already had a post-9/11 spate of that--people murdering citizens who *appeared* to be Arabs. Fanning the flames of hatred and paranoia can't solve anything. Rational thought and sane response can.
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Keith Hardwick, profile picture
Keith Hardwick
The Lt. Governor of Tennessee has violated his oath of office with a blatant display of government support of Christianity, excluding all other views, when he issued an official statement today directed solely to Christians advising them to buy guns for self defense using the falsehood that only Christians are being targeted when mass shootings occur.

" Every person who shall be chosen or appointed to any office of trust or profit under this Constitution, or any law made in pursuance thereof, shall, before entering on the duties thereof, take an oath to support the Constitution of this State, and of the United States, and an oath of office." - Tennessee Sec. of State

He must either resign or be removed from office for such an egregious violation of his oath of office.
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Grant Deardorff, profile picture
Grant Deardorff
Finally some common sense and a call to protect our families. This shooting and the recent shooting in Charleston, South Carolina have something in common- Christians being murdered. Charleston was turned into a racism and "black lives matter" issue, and this killing is being turned into another attack on gun control and liberty rights. This post is the first I've heard of someone saying publicly that Christians have been under attack both times. Black, white, young, old, east coast, west coast; Christians have been murdered and the left has left that part out as they select their agenda to promote after each tragic occurrence. If the public was armed with CCW and trained, there would not have been 9 more fatalities and 7 injuries; there would have been much fewer. Crazy people target gun free zones every time, and Christians have come under attack.
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Jackie Sue, profile picture
Jackie Sue
I don't recall you, Lt. Gov., calling on all black citizens to start carrying guns after the massacre in Charleston. No doubt it was an oversight. When the Sikhs were targeted in Wisconsin by a Christian, did you recommend that the religious minorities of this nation be prepared to defend themselves against Christian bigots by packing heat? I don't recall that, either. You probably meant to, though, I'm sure.
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Lee Irons, profile picture
Lee Irons
Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey I am Chirstian, a gun owner, and a permit carrier. I am also a student at UTK which does not allow guns on campus. So how does it help me if I can not carry on campus? It is the people that illegally carry on campus I have to worry about, and if they do all I have to protect my self is a heavy backpack. The places where these shootings happen are where people are not allowed to carry. How far do you think a shooter would get if he went up against some Good ole Tennessee boys carrying a weapon?
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Earl Bates, profile picture
Earl Bates
Thank you Lt. Governor Ramsey for your service to the great FREE State of Tenneesse. As a Tennesseean, a Christian, and Vietnam veteran who believes in the Constitution, I totally agree with you,
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Heather Joy Zimmerman, profile picture
Heather Joy Zimmerman
Dear Gov Ramsey.... Would the one who said "turn the other cheek" and who said "put down your sword" tell Christians to get gun permits today? I'm not saying I necessarily affirm pacifism on a national level, but Scripture doesn't tell Christians to respond to persecution with violence.
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Hannah Bernana Bosworth, profile picture
Hannah Bernana Bosworth
Unbelievable that you would be so irresponsible in your words. More words to divide the citizens against each other when we should in fact be coming together to stop these horrible tragedies. Your words only incite more violence. You will have blood on your hands if you don't already. You are indeed instigating a war within the US. I see what you are doing though and anyone who is not blind and has a brain can see what you are doing. What happened to your "Christian" commandment that says thou shalt not kill? You are no real christian but a domestic terrorist and anyone that follows or believes you is the same. You are all hypocrites and you make Christianity a joke. You sir need to be arrested for inciting violence against other American citizens and for domestic terrorism.
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Jim Bridges, profile picture
Jim Bridges
I find this post by Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey to be a direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus. Jesus' message was consistently one of love and nonviolence. He did not urge his followers to carry swords for protection against the heathen. Indeed, the Christian church was essentially pacifist for the first few centuries of its existence, until Constantine came along and created the Holy Roman Empire.
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Ed Sullivan, profile picture
Ed Sullivan
Dear Lt. Governor Ramsey: I see your answer to America’s epidemic of public mass shootings is urging “fellow Christians who are serious about their faith to consider getting a gun.” As a "fellow Christian,” I make an effort to follow the teachings of Jesus. I have searched the New Testament for guidance but can find no answers, so perhaps you can help. What sort of firearms would Jesus be packing? Would he open carry or conceal? What would you tell the Sunday school class you teach at Elizabeth Chapel United Methodist Church?
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Nikki Goeser, profile picture
Nikki Goeser
Sounds good Lt. Governor. However, are you and the rest of Republican Leadership ready to allow concealed carry on College Campuses now? A Christian student or teacher having a gun at home or locked in a car won't do them much good if they can't have the gun on them in the building when evil pays them a visit. Get rid of Gun Free Zones.
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Chad Rimmer, profile picture
Chad Rimmer
On the contrary, Lt. Gov., I would encourage my fellow Christians who are serious about their faith read Matthew chapters 5 and 6, The Sermon on the Mount. Then make a decision as to whether the Lt. Governor's call to arms has anything to do with Jesus, or is a fearful reaction that actually flies in the face of a "serious" Christian faith. I submit that the Lt. Gov.'s response perpetuates the cycle of violence that Christ calls "serious" Christians to overturn.
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Prototype Atheist, profile picture
Prototype Atheist
Hey, you know what? This guy was a self-described conservative and Republican. Maybe we should be worried about being attacked by right-wingers?

Or maybe we should just accept that this is nothing more than a product of mental illness and easy access to firearms, instead of trying to spin a narrative. Just maybe.

Don't forget that the perpetrator's own sentiments were against "organized religion", not just Christianity. Of course the people he killed were Christians, because they make up 80% of our population. It's unlikely that there were even any Muslims or Hindus or other people associated with organized religions even in the classrooms. Or, if there were, they might have refused to answer or said "other" once they realized that "Christian" was a bad answer.

To claim that this was about killing Christians is to be willfully obtuse. That's as bad as saying that ISIS persecutes Christians, while failing to mention that they also kill atheists, Yazidis, Zoroastrians, and even non-radical Muslims.
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Jayne Natzel, profile picture
Jayne Natzel
Yup, everyone needs a gun because we all know the safest place to be is in the middle of a war where everyone is armed. You say you're a Christian - well I think you are an embarrassment to real Christians.
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Ginger Sands, profile picture
Ginger Sands
Yes, because Jesus carried a handgun, right? Oh, wait a minute...He told Christians to love their enemies and turn the other cheek.
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Theresa Hope, profile picture
Theresa Hope
Guns are not responsible for the rise in mass murders, criminals will always have them. And in fact, if a responsible gun owner had his gun, fewer people may have been shot! The cause of the rise of these shootings is the rise in atheism. When people believed in God, they also believed in consequences. Now many do not. But God does exist, as do Heaven and hell. And God is as Just as He is merciful.
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Andrew Spitznas, profile picture
Andrew Spitznas
I love how as Lt. Gov, you decide to send out a message solely to 'serious Christians.' As a political representative, shouldn't you be concerned with all residents of Tennessee? But no, to hell (literally) with Jews, Muslims, and the ever-growing 'nones.'

Or maybe you just recognize that these minority groups would see your message for the crackpot persecution narrative that it is. You cherry-picked a couple of recent mass shootings to claim that heavily armed folks in America are gunning for Christians, and yet you claim this is not the time for ‘widespread panic.’ How ignorant and irresponsible. I long for the day when all Tennesseans will clamor for intelligent, responsible leaders, because you, Ron, are a disgrace.
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Sara Jane Goodman, profile picture
Sara Jane Goodman
Calling on fellow citizens to arm is a cowardly answer to a serious problem.
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Larry Reid, profile picture
Larry Reid
NO shootings have been motivated by "agressive secularism." Why are you lying and what is your hidden agenda? I am a combat veteran and am sick of Fascists spreading manure like this, using the authority of elected office to promote a sick personal agenda. You are a disgrace to my home state.
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Keith Hobbs, profile picture
Keith Hobbs
I applaud Ron Ramsey for his stance against violence and his support of Christians. For those haters who troll his FB page, please take a look at the US cities with the strongest gun control laws and explain to me how the policies you promote are helping to lower crime in those cities? Look at the statistics for Chicago, Washington DC, Detroit, Los Angeles, and New York City. Those cities have the HIGHEST rates of murder and shootings in the nation. So, explain to me how your argument holds any water in light of those FACTS?
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Matt Steinhauer, profile picture
Matt Steinhauer
I heard on the news that you had posted this. I thought "there is no way a statewide political leader would advise Christians to 'gun-up' at a time like this." Surely they were quoting the Lt. Gov. out of context? To my horror, not only were they NOT misquoting, I see you posted an invitation to Elizabeth Chapel United Methodist Church bazaar today just before you posted this "call to Christian arms." Will you have a booth there with gun permits for us to fill out? I doubt we will hear from you, but I would be interested in your favorite quote from the supposed leader of your faith, Jesus Christ, and his take on this. Point me to the chapter and verse.
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Nikki Goeser, profile picture
Nikki Goeser
Your Legislative staff who have handgun carry permits should be able to conceal carry in the War Memorial Building & Capitol. If you trust them enough to work there around high profile people like yourself then why in the world would you & the other legislators not trust them to carry to defend themselves & you? Legislators & staff who work there and have a permit should be able to carry.
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Lynn McAlister Rohland, profile picture
Lynn McAlister Rohland
Thank you for stepping aside from the establishment to standby the United States Constitution 2nd amendment in the spirit of the care and welfare of your community. God bless you and your pragmatic intellect from here in Virginia. I wish all Governors would follow your lead. Christians are under attack in the U.S.
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Jim Leible, profile picture
Jim Leible
I agree with the LT Gov and here is why. The current Fed Govt has started a domestic war between the police and citizens so we can't count on police protection. This current administration has resurrected racism to a higher point since the 60's. The Fed Govt has elevated their prejudices towards Christainity and conservatives (shutting down private businesses for exercising religious beliefs, IRS scandal, no national prayer day, legalizing gay marriage, etc), EPA and other federal depts strangling business with regulation so no jobs, lying to us about obamacare and taking control of our healthcare, open border policy allowing terrorist to enter our country unchecked, destroying people's lives through political correctness, constantly trying to take control of the second amendment, making tax payers pay for murdering our babies through planned parenthood, a foreign policy that now has our next generation of children in peril due to a destabilized world---Iranian Nuclear deal, need more, well simply lying to us each and everyday about things like global warming, no the Russians and Chinese are our friends, no their not terrorist? Major Hassan killing and wounding over 30 U.S. Soldiers at Ft Hood was a workplace crime (he is a terrorist) releasing 5 terrorist commanders for SGT Bergdahl now facing trial for desertion, oh and don't forget this country is broke wait for that bill to start coming in and were suppose to be happy Hillary is running for president! Another Saul Alinsky disciple just like Barack Obama. So anyone ever think some of these horrific mass shootings have anything to do with a horrific federal government? Like the GOP leadership and demo leadership aren't in bed together so they can conspire to control all of us idiots out here?
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Anita Spence, profile picture
Anita Spence
I have a hand-gun carry permit - it's often referred to as the 2nd Amendment - and it doesn't cost me a dime!
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