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To the handful of Facebook friends expressing outrage over trans athlete Lia Thomas accompanied by the hashtag SaveWomensSports:

I was a little surprised by some of you, to be honest, because I’ve never known you to be concerned about women’s sports before. So I scrolled through your timeline to make sure I wasn’t missing something. Maybe some post or commentary showing concern or support for Naomi Osaka or Simone Biles or Brittney Griner. Surely you’ve been advocating for equal pay alongside the USWNST all these years and maybe re-posted celebrations of Megan Rapinoe or Carli Lloyd or some other trailblazer when the settlement with US Soccer Federation was recently reached. No? No posts commemorating the 50th anniversary of Title IX, either?

Let me get this straight. You were silent about Larry Nassar but now outraged by Lia Thomas? That seems odd to me. I’m curious to know the inspiration for your newfound passion for women’s sports.

As you may know, I have a high school daughter who’s been competing in a variety of sports for several years now and who aspires to compete at the next level. I’m a huge fan of Anika Raburn and her teammates, in particular, and consider myself a strong advocate for women’s athletics, in general. Scroll through MY timeline. I think I have earned enough street cred to express my humble opinion on the topic. Here goes.

To be clear, Lia Thomas does not dominate the sport of swimming (she placed 5th and 8th in other events at the meet), nor do any of the tiny percentage of trans athletes who compete in their respective sports across the US.

Trans athletes pose no threat to women’s sports.

You know what does? Lack of funding, lack of protection, rampant sexual harassment, and unequal pay. To be sure, I do not lay awake at night worrying that Anika may someday have to compete against a trans woman.

Of course, there are nuanced conversations to be had about fairness and competitive advantage, etc. - complex issues and policies about which the IOC and NCAA and other governing bodies grapple and tweak on an ongoing basis. (Note: Lia Thomas tested within the normal range for testosterone for female athletes).

I’m willing to discuss these issues with you.

But first, show me a shred of evidence that you actually care about women’s sports.

Also, I’d like to know if you’ve ever even known a trans person or had a trans friend or supported a parent of a trans child or have some appreciation for the fact that trans kids are at hugely disproportionate risk for suicide or can acknowledge how challenging it is for trans kids to find “space” to be and to fit in and understand that team sports can sometimes provide that rare space.

Do you naturally default to inclusion rather than exclusion?

If not, my assumption is that your interest in “saving” women’s sports is nothing more than thinly-veiled transphobia among a broader anti-LGBTQ right-wing hate agenda and would respectfully decline any attempt at meaningful conversation with you on the topic.

I would also suggest you pick a different battle and leave women’s sports to those of us who are actually passionate about it. However, if you are truly interested in the topic, I suggest turning your attention to Brittney Griner, American athlete wrongfully imprisoned in Russia. #SaveBrittneyGriner

There, I fixed your hashtag.

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Carlene Hill Byron, profile picture
Carlene Hill Byron
Have I ever had a trans friend? Well, I had a trans colleague in my first job, which was probably before you graduated high school. And I’m not sure that Camille — a six foot Viking of a woman who belonged to the pressmen’s Union (as her former identity, Joseph, also had) would have aligned with the current posture that trans women are the athletic peers of born female women. My guess is she’d have laughed at the idea, as her Union buddies would have. But back then, we still would have written the obituary, according to the AP style book of the time, “Joseph was born … Camille died.”
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Scott Whittle
Another point of view…from a female athlete.

https://www.facebook.com/600910349/posts/10159986821520350/?d=n

The words of Chelsea Mitchell:
"They used to call me 'the fastest girl in Connecticut.' But I couldn’t outrun anMeer injustice.

For four years, I competed as a high school runner and made it to the state championships every one of those years. But in my junior year, I lost four of the state titles I earned to males who identified as females.

They give awards based on who wins—typically the person with the strongest muscles, the greatest lung power, the fastest speed—not based on how a person identifies. At the end of the race, it’s about biology, not gender identity. And no amount of testosterone suppression can change a male’s innate physical advantages, like bone structure and muscle mass.

And… Meer

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Mondale Robinson
This post is everything!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rayellen Kishbach
Thank you for this. Anyone wondering what Allyship actually is, read this!!!
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Linda C. Holmes Woodie
Beautiful post and so true . We should all be supporting women in all sports regardless of their personal and genetic women that make them so special.
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David Alan Stafford
Bravo.
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Wendell Jourdan
Look, this is not a Transphobic issue. I hope Lia finds happiness and success. But, it is a genetic biological issue. Men are genetically superior to women in competitions using strength and speed. We ban steroids because it gives an unfair advantage so, they are similar in that respect. There are several sports that dont depend on strength and speed such as, shooting, archery, and curling where she might compete.
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Aimee Gallo Delamore
Have you been previously interested in women’s sports? Or been a competitive female athlete?
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Joan Chipman
Your page, so far, is nothing but an echo chamber.
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Brian Hayashi
I have so much empathy for most of this but the Brittney Griner thing needs to stop. Her wife, her family, the State Department, are all united on this. Russians increased her sentence after the initial news came out about her. More social media is making things worse.

https://www.essence.com/lifestyle/brittney-griner-wife/
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/brittney-griners-wife-posts-instagram-wnba-stars-detainment-russia-rcna18889
https://www.distractify.com/p/brittney-griner-new-wife
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Sandra Jolly
Thanks for all the great facts, but they mean nothing to the haters, including some people I still call friends. Part of the problem is the DAMN Catholic Church. They put these thoughts into the heads of sincere but not too bright people who then go on to spout this awful stuff and refuse to hear the facts. The only solution I can see is to force the churches (all of them) to pay taxes unless they shut the F**k up!!!
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Paul Leo
Bravo 👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Aaron LeBauer
👏👏👏
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Judi Bryan
Beautifully said!
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Nancy Branch
A Facebook friend shared your post, and I just had to tell you how eloquent it is. Thank you! This should go viral.
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Beverly Bryan Bliss
Great, thank you
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Shiloh Morgan
A Trans woman is still every bit a biological male. That cannot be changed. They remain an XY. Sorry.
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Devin Miller
Yup!!
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Domingo Gonzalez
Well said
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Pauline Anson-Dross
Wow. Well said!
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Jim Caldwell
I love USWNT and I think trans athletes are an issue not yet resolved. Life has nuance sometimes.
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Craig Berlin
Well dang...it's been a few years since I was posting about my daughter's softball (she played select and high school) or my stepdaughter's soccer/softball/volleyball but I guess that's the only thing that matters? Women's SPORTS?

NO.

That isn't the real issue here. First of all, I'm a firm supporter of individuals with genuine gender dysphoria who decide of their own accord, that they are in the wrong body. For those who decide as adults to transition, I support them.

That does not change that there are physical differences between those who are born anatomically male or female. If we are going to be fair to women competing for jobs or public office, that doesn't matter. Sports is a competition based solely on physical prowess, so this isn't only about women's sports; it's about respect for women and fairness in general.

Support for other women athletes is irrelevant and by the way, while I wish no ill on Brittny Griner and hope she gets out safely, what a dumb thing to have cannabis while traveling in Russia. It's also quite ironic that she feels so strongly about the US when we are clearly a lot more tolerant of individuals such as her than the Russians are. If she'd been caught here (and likely wouldn't have), at most she would've gotten a slap on the wrist. Maybe her appreciation for this country will increase.
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Steven Greenwood
Completely dissagree. And I do follow women's sports. Actually go live sometimes to volleyball and basketball. Suggesting the issue is about anti LGBTQ is offensive. I'm sympathetic to the community struggles (really) and still don't think this is fair to women's sports. Have no issue in men's sports. There is a physical difference.
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Thomas Colandro
Actually in some ways I disagree with you on parts of this one. Sports is entertainment and if women’s sports can’t make it without taking money from men’s sports they shouldn’t exist. An example is the funding of the WNBA b the NBA. This is paid for by the fan that wants to take his family to a game and can’t afford it because the tickets are so expensive. As far as trans athletes competing in sports based on the gender they currently identify with, I don’t think it’s fair because of the different body types but I also don’t care as this is almost always in women’s sports which I don’t watch. If a woman is good enough to play on a mens team and chooses to, I have no problem with that as long as the same standards are met. If they have to lower standards as they did in law enforcement and firefighters I am against it because that not only allows women that couldn’t meet the previous standards to get hired but also men that previously wouldn’t have gotten the job.
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Andree Collier Zaleska
Oh look, it's the Argument From Hypocrisy.
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Mark Piske
"I was a little surprised by some of you, to be honest, because I’ve never known you to be concerned about women’s sports before."

Oh spare me. This is projection on a Trumpian scale. The staggering sports ignorance demonstrated consistently by left wingers in this debate clearly identifies them as those who never gave a shit about women's sports until they appeared to rub against their political aspirations.

This is also boilerplate ad hominem, which is no surprise given your inability to form a straightforward, evidence-based argument while denying plain evidence anyone paying attention can see for themselves. Lia Thomas' story is EXACTLY what opponents of trans females competing in the female category said would happen. So is the story of Leia Genis, or Fallon Fox, Terry Miller, Mary Gregory, CC Telfer or Veronica Ivy and no doubt others. Your claim that trans athletes pose no threat to women's sports is a profession of faith motivated by ideology, not a reasoned conclusion based on evidence.