100 Proofs The Earth is not a Globe; WM. Carpenter. published 1885 ... is that of a concave surface
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100 Proofs The Earth is not a Globe; WM. Carpenter. 
 1. The aeronaut can see for himself that Earth is a Plane. The appearance presented to him, even at the highest elevation he has ever attained, is that of a concave surface - this being exactly what is to be expected of a surface that is truly level, since it is the nature of level surfaces to appear to rise to a level with the eye of the observer. This is ocular demonstration and proof that Earth is not a globe.
 2. Whenever experiments have been tried on the surface of standing water, this surface has always been found to be level. If the Earth were a globe, the surface of all standing water would be convex. This is an experimental proof that Earth is not a globe.
 3. Surveyors' operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest "allowance" being made for "curvature," although it is taught that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.
 4. There are rivers that flow for hundreds of miles towards the level of the sea without falling more than a few feet - notably, the Nile, which, in a thousand miles, falls but a foot. A level expanse of this extent is quite incompatible with the idea of the Earth's "convexity." It is, therefore, a reasonable proof that Earth is not a globe.
 5. The lights which are exhibited in lighthouses are seen by navigators at distances at which, according to the scale of the supposed "curvature" given by astronomers, they ought to be many hundreds of feet, in some cases, down below the line of sight! For instance: the light at Cape Hatteras is seen at such a distance (40 miles) that, according. to theory, it ought to be nine-hundred feet higher above the level of the sea than it absolutely is, in order to be visible! This is a conclusive proof that there is no "curvature," on the surface of the sea - "the level of the sea,"- ridiculous though it is to be under the necessity of proving it at all: but it is, nevertheless, a conclusive proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 6. If we stand on the sands of the sea-shore and watch a ship approach us, we shall find that she will apparently "rise" - to the extent, of her own height, nothing more. If we stand upon an eminence, the same law operates still; and it is but the law of perspective, which causes objects, as they approach us, to appear to increase in size until we see them, close to us, the size they are in fact. That there is no other "rise" than the one spoken of is plain from the fact that, no matter how high we ascend above the level of the sea, the horizon rises on and still on as we rise, so that it is always on a level with the eye, though it be two-hundred miles away, as seen by Mr. J. Glaisher, of England, from Mr. Coxwell's balloon. So that a ship five miles away may be imagined to be "coming up" the imaginary downward curve of the Earth's surface, but if we merely ascend a hill such as Federal Hill, Baltimore, we may see twenty-!five miles away, on a level with the eye - that is, twenty miles level distance beyond the ship that we vainly imagined to be " rounding the curve," and "coming up!" This is a plain proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 7. If we take a trip down the Chesapeake Bay, in the day-time, we may see for ourselves the utter fallacy of the idea that when a vessel appears "hull down," as it is called, it is because the hull is "behind the water:" for, vessels, have been seen, and may often be seen - again, presenting the appearance spoken of, and away - far away - beyond those vessels, and, at the same moment, the level shore line, with its accompanying complement of tall trees towering up, in perspective, over the heads of the "hull-down" ships! Since, then, the idea will not stand its ground when the facts rise up against it, and it is a piece of the popular theory, the theory is a contemptible piece of business, and we may easily wring from it a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 8. If the Earth were a globe, a small model globe would be the very best - because the truest - thing for the. navigator to take to sea with him. But such a thing as that is not known: with such a toy as a guide, the mariner would wreck his ship, of a certainty!, This is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 9. As mariners take to sea with them charts constructed as though the sea were a level surface, however these charts may err as to the true form of this level surface taken as a whole, it is clear, as they find them answer their purpose tolerably well - and only tolerably for many ships are wrecked owing to the error of which we speak - that the surface of the sea is as it is taken to be, whether the captain of the ship "supposes" the Earth to be a globe or anything else. Thus, then, we draw, from the common system of "plane sailing," a practical proof that Earth is not a globe.
 10.- That the mariners' compass points north and south at the same time is a fact as indisputable as that two and two makes four; but that this would be impossible if the thing, were placed on a globe with "north" and "south' at the centre of opposite hemispheres is a fact that does not figure in the school-books, though very easily seen: and it requires no lengthy train of reasoning to bring out of it a pointed proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 11. As the mariners' compass points north and south at one time, and as the North, to which it is attracted is that part of the Earth situated where the North Star is in the zenith, it follows that there is no south "point" or "pole" but that, while the centre is North, a vast circumference must be South in its whole extent. This is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 12. As we have seen that there is, really no south point (or pole) but an infinity of points forming, together, a vast circumference -- the boundary of the known world, with its battlements of icebergs which bid defiance to man's onward course, in a southerly direction - so there can be no east or west "points,' just as there is no "yesterday," and no "tomorrow." In fact, as there is one point that is fixed (the North), it is impossible for any other point to be fixed likewise. East and west are, therefore, merely directions at right angles with a north and south line: and as the south point of the compass shifts round to all parts of the circular boundary, (as it may be carried round the central North) so the directions east and west, crossing this line, continued to form a circle at any latitude. A westerly circumnavigation, is going around with the North Star continually on the right hand, and an easterly circumnavigation is performed only when the reverse condition of things is maintained, the North Star being on the left hand as the journey is made. These facts, taken together, form a beautiful proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 13. As the mariners' compass points north and south at one and the same time, and a meridian is a north and south line, it follows that meridians can be no other than straight lines. But, since all meridians on a globe are semicircles, it is an incontrovertible proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 14. "Parallels of latitude" only - of all imaginary lines on the surface of the Earth - are circles, which increase, progressively, from the northern centre to the southern circumference. The mariner's course in the direction of any one of these concentric circles is his longitude, the degrees of which INCREASE to such an extent beyond the equator (going southwards) that hundreds of vessels have been wrecked because of the false idea created by the untruthfulness of the charts and the globular theory together, causing the sailor to be continually getting out of his reckoning. With a map of the Earth in its true form all difficulty is done away with, and ships may be conducted anywhere with perfect safety. This, then, is a very important practical proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 15. The idea that, instead of sailing horizontally round the Earth, ships are taken down one side of a globe, then underneath, and are brought up on the other side to get home again, is, except as a mere dream, impossible and absurd! And, since there are neither impossibilities nor absurdities in the simple matter of circumnavigation, it stands without argument, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 16. If the, Earth were a globe, the distance round its surface at, say, 45 "degrees" south latitude, could not possibly be any greater than it is at the same latitude north; but, since it is found by navigators to be twice the distance -- to say the least of it -- or, double the distance it ought to be according to the globular theory, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 17. Human beings require a surface on which to live that, in its general character, shall be LEVEL; and since the Omniscient Creator must have been perfectly acquainted with the requirements of His creatures, it follows that, being an All-wise Creator, He has met them thoroughly. This is a theological proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 18. The best possessions of man are his senses; and, when he uses them all, he will not be deceived in his survey of nature. It is only when some one faculty or other is neglected or abused that he is deluded. Every man in full command of his senses knows that a level surface is a flat or horizontal one; but astronomers tell us that the true level is the curved surface of a globe! They know that man requires a level surface on which to live, so they give him one in name which is not one in fact! Since this is the best that astronomers, with their theoretical science, can do for their fellow creatures - deceive them - it is clear that things are not as they say they are; and, in short, it is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 19. Every man in his senses goes the most reasonable way to work to do a thing. Now, astronomers (one after another - following a leader), while they are telling us that Earth is a globe, are cutting off the upper half of this suppositious globe in their books, and, in this way, forming the level surface on which they describe man as living and moving! Now, if the Earth were really a globe, this would be just the most unreasonable and suicidal mode of endeavoring to show it. So that, unless theoretical astronomers are all out of their senses together, it is, clearly, a, proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 20. The common sense of man tells him - if nothing else told him - that there is an "up" and a "down" in -nature, even as regards the heavens and the earth; but the theory of modern astronomers necessitates the conclusion that there is not: therefore, 'the theory of the astronomers is opposed to common sense - yes, and to inspiration - and this is a common sense proof that the Earth is not a globe.
21. Man's experience tells him that he is not constructed like the flies that can live said move upon the ceiling of a room with as much safety as on the floor: - and since the modern theory of a planetary earth necessitates a crowd of theories to keep company with it, and one of them is that men are really bound to. the earth by a force which fastens them to it "like needles round a spherical loadstone," a theory perfectly outrageous and opposed to all human experience, it follows that, unless we can trample upon common sense ane ignore the teachings of experience, we have an evident proof that the Earth is not a globe.
22. God's Truth never - no, never - requires a falsehood to help it along. Mr. Proctor, in his " Lessons," says: Men " have been able to go round and round the Earth in several directions." Now, in this case, the word " several will imply more than two, unquestionably: whereas, it is utterly impossible to circumnavigate the Earth in any other than an easterly or a westerly direction; and the fact is perfectly consistent and clear in its relation to Earth as a Plane.. Now, since astronomers would not be so foolish as to damage a good cause by misrepresentation, it is presumptive evidence that their cause is a bad one, and - a proof that Earth is not a globe.
23. If astronomical works be searched through and through, there will not be found a single instance of a bold, unhesitating, or manly ,statement respecting a proof of the Earth's " rotundity." Proctor speaks of "proofs which serve to show ... that the Earth is not flat," and says that man "finds reason to think that the Earth is not flat," and speaks of certain matters being "explained by supposing" that the Earth is a, globe; and says that people have "assured themselves that it is a globe;" but he says, also, that there is a " most complete proof that the Earth is a globe:" just as though anything in the world could possibly be wanted but a proof - a proof that proves and settles the whole question. This, however, all the money in the United States Treasury would not buy; and, unless the astronomers are all so rich that they don't want the cash, it is a sterling proof that the Earth is not a globe.
24. When a man speaks of a "most complete" thing amongst several other things which claim to be what that thing is, it is evident that they must fall short of something which the "most complete" thing possesses. And when it is known that the "most complete" thing is an entire failure, it is plain that the others, all and sundry, are worthless. Proctor's "most complete proof that the Earth is a globe" lies in what he calls "the fact" that distances from place to place agree with calculation. But, since the distance round the Earth at 45 " degrees" south of the equator is twice the distance it would be on a globe, it follows that what the greatest astronomer of the age calls "a fact" is NOT a fact; that his "most complete proof' is a most complete failure; and that be might as well have told us, at once, that he has NO PROOF to give us at all. Now, since, if the Earth be a globe, there would, necessarily, be piles of proofs of it all round us, it follows that when astronomers, with all their ingenuity, are utterly unable to point one out - to say nothing about picking one up - that they give us a proof that Earth is not a globe.
25. The surveyor's plans in relation to the laying of the first Atlantic Telegraph cable, show that in 1665 miles - from Valentia, Ireland, to St . John's, Newfoundland - the surface of the Atlantic Ocean is a LEVEL surface - not the astronomers' "level," either! The authoritative drawings, published at the time, are a standing evidence of the fact, and form a practical proof that Earth is not a globe.
26. If the Earth were a globe, it would, if we take Valentia to be the place of departure, curvate downwards, in the 1665 miles across the Atlantic to Newfoundland, according to the astronomers' own tables, more than three hundred miles; but, as the surface of the Atlantic does not do so - the fact of its levelness having been clearly demonstrated by Telegraph Cable surveyors, - it follows that we have a grand proof that Earth is not a globe.
27. Astronomers, in their consideration of the supposed "curvature" of the Earth, have carefully avoided the taking of that view of the question which - if anything were needed to do so -would show its utter absurdity. It is this: - if, instead of taking our ideal point of departure to be at Valentia, we consider ourselves at St. John's, the 1665 miles of water between us and Valentia would just as well "curvate" downwards as it did in the other case! Now, since the direction in which the Earth is said to "curvate" is interchangeable - depending, indeed, upon the position occupied by a man upon its surface - the thing is utterly absurd; and it follows that the theory is an outrage , and that the Earth does not "curvate" at all: - an evident proof that the Earth is not a globe.
28. Astronomers are in the habit of considering two points on the Earth's surface, without, it seems, any limit as to the distance that lies between them, as being on a level, and the intervening section, even though it be an ocean, as a vast "hill"-of water!" The Atlantic ocean, in taking this view of the matter, would form a "hill of water" more than a hundred miles high! The idea is simply monstrous, and could only be entertained by scientists whose whole business is made up of materials of the same description: and it certainly requires no argument to deduce, from such "science" as this, a satisfactory proof that the Earth is not a globe.
29. If the Earth were a globe, it would, unquestionably, have the same general characteristics - no matter its size - as a small globe that may be stood upon the table. As the small globe has top, bottom, and sides, so must also the large one - no matter how large it be. But, as the Earth, which is "supposed" to be a large globe, bas no sides or bottom as the small globe has, the conclusion is irresistible that it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
30. If the Earth were a globe, an observer who should ascend above its surface would have to took downwards at the horizon (if it be possible to conceive of a horizon at all under such circumstances) even as astronomical diagrams indicate that angles - varying from ten to nearly fifty degrees below the "horizontal" line of sight! (It is just as absurd as it would be to be taught that when we look at a man full in the face we are looking down at his feet!) But, as no observer in the clouds, or upon any eminence on the earth, has ever had to do so, it follows that the diagrams spoken of are imaginary and false; that the theory which requires such things to prop it up is equally airy and untrue; and that we have a substantial proof that Earth is not a globe.
31. If the Earth were a globe, it would certainly have to be as large as it is said to be - twenty-five thousand miles in circumference. Now, the thing which I have called a "proof" of the Earth's roundness, and which is presented to children at school, is, that if we stand on the seashore we may see the ships, as they approach us, absolutely "coming up," and that, as we are able to see the highest parts of these ships first, it is because the lower parts are "behind the earth's curve."Now since if this were the case - that is, if the lower parts of these ships were behind a "hill of water" - the size of the Earth, indicated by such a curve as this, would be so small that it would only be big enough to hold the people of a parish, if they could get all round it, instead of the nations of the world, it follows that the idea is preposterous; that the appearance is due to another and to some reasonable cause; and that, instead of being a proof of the globular form of the Earth, it is a proof that at Earth is not a globe.
32. It is often said that, if the Earth were flat, we could see all over it! This is the result of ignorance. If we stand on the level surface a plain or a prairie, and take notice, we shall find that the horizon is formed at about three miles all around us: that is, the ground appears to rise up until, at that distance, it seems on a level with the eye-line or line of sight. Consequently, objects no higher than we stand - say, six feet - and which are at that distance (three miles), have reached the "vanishing point," and are beyond the sphere of our unaided vision. This is the reason why the hull of a ship disappears (in going away from us) before the sails; and, instead of there being about it the faintest shadow of evidence of the, Earth's rotundity, it is a clear proof that Earth is not a globe.
33. If the Earth were a globe, people - except those on the top - would, certainly, have to be "fastened" to its surface by some means or other, whether by the "attraction" of astronomers or by some other undiscovered and undiscoverable process! But, as we know that we simply walk on its surface without any other aid than that which is necessary for locomotion on a plane, it follows that we have, herein, a conclusive proof that Earth is not a globe.
34. If the Earth were a globe, there certainly would be - if we could imagine the thing to be peopled all round - "antipodes:" "people who," says the dictionary, "living exactly on the opposite side of the globe to ourselves, have their feet opposite to ours: - people who are hanging heads downwards whilst we are standing heads up! But, since the theory allows us to travel to those parts of the Earth where the people are said to be heads downwards, and still to fancy ourselves to be heads upwards and our friends whom we have left behind - us to be heads downwards, it follows that the whole thing is a myth - a dream - a delusion - and a snare; and, instead of there being any evidence at all in this direction to substantiate the popular theory, it is a plain proof that the Earth is not a globe.
35. If we examine a true picture of the distant horizon, or the thing itself, we shall find that it coincides exactly with a perfectly straight and level line. Now, since there could be nothing of the kind on a globe, and we find it to be the case all over the Earth, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
36. If we take a journey down the Chesapeake Bay, by night, we shall see the "light" exhibited at Sharpe's Island for an hour before the steamer gets to it. We may take up a position on the deck so that the rail of the vessel's side will be in a line with the "light" and in the line of sight; and we shall find that in the whole journey the light will won't vary in the slightest degree in its apparent elevation. But, say that a distance of thirteen miles has been traversed, the astronomers' theory of "curvature" demands a difference (one way or the other!) in the apparent elevation of the light, of 112 feet 8 inches! Since, however, there is not a difference of 100 hair's breadths, we have a plain proof that the water of the Chesapeake Bay is not curved, which is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
37. If the Earth were a globe, there would, very likely, be (for nobody knows) six months day and six months night at the arctic and antarctic regions, as astronomers dare to assert there is: - for their theory demands it! But, as this fact - the six months day and six months night - is; nowhere found but in the arctic regions, it agrees perfectly with everything else that we know about the Earth as a plane, and, whilst it overthrows the "accepted theory," it furnishes a striking proof that Earth is not a globe.
38. When the Sun crosses the equator, in March, and begins to circle round the heavens in north latitude, the inhabitants of high northern latitudes see him slimming round their horizon and forming the break of their long day, in a horizontal course, not disappearing again for six months, as he rises higher and higher in the heavens whilst he makes his twenty-four hour circle until June, when he begins to descend and goes on until he disappears beyond the horizon in September. Thus, in the northern regions, they have that which the traveler calls the "midnight Sun," as he sees that luminary at a time when, in his more southern latitude, it is always midnight. If, for one-half the year, we may see for ourselves the Sun making horizontal circles round the heavens, it is presumptive evidence that, for the other half-year, he is doing the same, although beyond the boundary of our vision. This, being a proof that Earth is a plane, is, therefore, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
39. We have abundance of evidence that the Sun moves daily round and over the Earth in circles concentric with the northern region over which hangs the North Star; but, since the theory of the Earth being a globe is necessarily connected with the theory of its motion round the Sun in a yearly orbit, it falls to the ground when we bring forward the evidence of which we speak, and, in so doing, forms a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
40. The Suez canal, which joins the Red Sea with the Mediterranean, is about one hundred miles long; it forms a straight and level surface of water from one end to the other; and no allowance for any supposed "curvature" was made in its construction. It is a clear proof that the Earth is not a globe.
41. When astronomers assert that it is "necessary" to make "allowance for curvature" in canal construction, it is, of course, in order that, in their idea, a level cutting may be had, for the water. How flagrantly, then, do they contradict themselves when the curved surface of the Earth is a "true level!" What more can they want for a canal than a true level? Since they contradict themselves in such an elementary point as this, it is an evidence that the whole thing is a delusion, and we have a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
42. It is certain that the theory of the Earth's rotundity and that of its mobility must stand or fall together. A proof, then, of its immobility is virtually a proof of its non-rotundity. Now, that the Earth does not move, either on an axis, or in an orbit round the Sun or anything else, is easily proven. If the Earth went through space at the rate of eleven-hundred miles in a minute of time, as astronomers teach us, in a particular direction, there would unquestionably be a, difference in the result of firing off a projectile in that direction and in a direction the opposite of that one. But as, in fact, there is not the slightest difference in any such case, it is clear that any alleged motion of the Earth is disproved, and that, therefore, we have a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
43. The circumstances which attend bodies which are caused merely to fall from a great height prove nothing as to the motion or stability of the Earth, since the object, if it be on a thing that is in motion, will participate in that motion; but, if an object be thrown, upwards from a body at rest, and, again, from a body in motion, the circumstances attending its descent will be very different. In the former case, it will fall, if thrown vertically upwards, at the place from whence it was projected; in the latter case, it will fall behind the moving body from which it is thrown will leave it in the rear. Now, fix a gun, muzzle upwards, accurately, in the ground; fire off a projectile; and it will fall by the gun. If the Earth traveled eleven hundred miles a minute, the projectile would fall behind the gun, in the opposite direction to that of the supposed motion. Since, then, this is NOT the case, in fact, the Earth's fancied motion is negatived and we have a proof that the Earth is not a, globe.
44. It is in evidence that, if a projectile be fired from a rapidly moving body in an opposite direction to that in which the body is going, it will fall short of the distance at which it would reach the ground if fired in the direction of motion. Now, since the Earth is said to move at the rate of nineteen miles in, a second of time, "from west to east," it would make all the difference imaginable if the gun were fired in an opposite direction. But, as, in practice, there is not the slightest difference, whichever way the thing may be done, we have a forcible overthrow of all fancies relative to the motion of the Earth, and a striking proof that the Earth is not a globe.
45. The Astronomer Royal, of England, George B. Airy, in his celebrated work on Astronomy, the "Ipswich Lectures," says - "Jupiter is a large planet that turns on his axis, and why do not we turn?" Of course, the common sense reply is: Because the Earth is not a planet! When, therefore, an astronomer royal puts words into our mouth wherewith we may overthrow the supposed planetary nature of the Earth, we have not far to go to pick up a proof that Earth is not a globe.
46. It has been shown that an easterly or a westerly motion is necessarily a circular course round the central North, The only north point or centre of motion of the heavenly bodies known to man is that formed by the North Star, which is over the central portion of the outstretched Earth. When, therefore, astronomers tell us of a planet taking a westerly course round the Sun, the thing is as meaningless to them as it is to us, unless they make the Sun the northern centre of the motion, which they cannot do! Since, then, the motion which they tell us the planets have is, on the face of it, absurd; and since, as a matter of fact, the Earth can have no absurd motion at all, it is clear that it cannot be what astronomers say it is - a planet; and, if not a planet, it is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
47. In consequence of the fact being so plainly seen, by everyone who visits the seashore, that the line of the horizon is a perfectly straight line, it becomes impossible for astronomers, when they attempt to convey, pictorially, an idea of the Earth's "convexity," to do so with even a shadow of consistency: for they dare not represent this horizon as a curved line, so well known is it that it is a straight one! The greatest astronomer of the age, in page 15 of his "Lessons," gives an illustration of a ship sailing away, "as though she were rounding the top of a great hill of water;" and there - of a truth - is the straight and level line of the horizon clear along the top of the "hill" from one side of the picture to the other! Now, if this picture were true in all its parts - and it is outrageously false in several - it would show that Earth is a cylinder; for the "hill" shown is simply up one side of the level, horizontal line, and, we are led to suppose, down the other! Since, then, we have such high authority as Professor Richard A. Proctor that the Earth is a cylinder, it is, certainly, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
48. In Mr. Proctor's "Lessons in Astronomy," page 15, a ship is represented as sailing away from the observer, and it is given in five positions or distances away on its journey. Now, in its first position, its mast appears above the horizon, and, consequently, higher than the observer's line of vision. But, in its second and third positions, representing the ship as further and further away, it is drawn higher and still higher up above the line of the horizon! Now, it is utterly impossible for a ship to sail away from an observer, under the, conditions indicated, and to appear as given in the picture. Consequently, the picture is a misrepresentation, a fraud, and a disgrace. A ship starting to sail away from an observer with her masts above his line of sight would appear, indisputably, to go down and still lower down towards the horizon line, and could not possibly appear - to anyone with his vision undistorted - as going in any other direction, curved or straight. Since, then the design of the astronomer-artist is to show the Earth to be a globe, and the points in the picture, which would only prove the Earth to be cylindrical if true, are NOT true, it follows that the astronomer-artist fails to prove, pictorially, either that the Earth is a globe or a cylinder, and that we have, therefore, a reasonable proof that the Earth is not. a globe.
49 It is a well-known fact that clouds are continually seen moving in all manner of directions - yes, and frequently, in different directions at the same time - from west to east being as frequent a direction as any other. . Now, if the Earth were a globe, revolving through space from west to east at the rate of nineteen miles in a second, the clouds appearing to us to move towards the east would have to move quicker than nineteen miles in a second to be thus seen; whilst those which appear to be moving in the opposite direction would have no necessity to be moving at all, since the motion of the Earth would be more than sufficient to cause the appearance. But it only takes a little common sense to show us that it is the clouds that move just as they appear to do, and that, therefore, the Earth is motionless. We have, then a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
50. We read in the inspired book, or collection of books, called THE BIBLE, nothing at all about the Earth being a globe or a planet, from beginning to end, but hundreds of allusions there are in its pages which could not be made if the Earth were a globe, and which are, therefore, said by the astronomer to be absurd and contrary to what he knows to be true! This is the groundwork of modern infidelity. But, since every one of many, many allusions to the Earth and the heavenly bodies in the Scriptures can be demonstrated to be absolutely true to nature, and we read of the Earth being "stretched out" "above the waters," as "standing in the water and out of the water," of its being "established that it cannot be moved," we have a store from which to take all the proofs we need, but we will just put down one proof - the Scriptural proof - that Earth is not a globe.
51. A "Standing Order" exists in the English Houses of Parliament that in the cutting of canals, &c., the datum line employed shall be a "horizontal line, which shall be the same throughout the whole length of the work." Now if the Earth were a globe, this "Order" could not be carried out: but, it is carried out: therefore it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
52. It is a well-known and indisputable fact that there is a far greater accumulation of ice south of the equator than is to be found at an equal latitude north: and it is said that at Kerguelen, 50 degrees south, 18 kinds of plants exist, whilst, in Iceland, 15 degrees nearer the northern centre, there are 870 species; and, indeed, all the facts in the case show that the Sun's power is less intense at places in the southern region than it is in corresponding latitudes north. Now, on the Newtonian hypothesis, all this is inexplicable, whilst it is strictly in accordance with the facts brought to light by the carrying out of the principles involved in the Zetetic Philosophy of "Parallax." This is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
53. Every year the Sun is as long south of the equator as he is north; and if the Earth were not "stretched out" as it is, in fact, but turned under, as the Newtonian theory suggests it would certainly get as intensive a share of the Sun's rays south as north; but the Southern region being, in consequence of the fact stated, - far more extensive than the region North, the Sun, having to complete his journey round every twenty-four hours, travels quicker as he goes further south, from September to December, and his influence has less time in which to accumulate at any given point. Since, then the facts could not be as they are if the Earth were a globe, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
54. The aeronaut is able to start in his balloon and remain for hours in the air, at an elevation of several miles, and come down again in the same county or parish from which he ascended. Now, unless the Earth drag the balloon along with it in its nineteen-miles-a-second motion, it must be left far behind, in space: but, since balloons have never been known thus to be left it is a proof that the Earth does not move, and, therefore, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
55. The Newtonian theory of astronomy requires that the Moon "borrow" her light from the Sun. Now, since the Sun's rays are hot and the Moon's light sends with it no heat at all, it follows that the Sun and Moon are "two great lights," as we somewhere read; that the Newtonian theory is a mistake; and that, therefore, we have a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
56. The Sun and Moon may often be seen high in the heavens at the same time - the Sun rising in the east and the Moon setting in the west - the Sun's light positively putting the Moon's light out by sheer contrast! If the Newtonian theory were correct, and the moon had her light from the Sun, she ought to be getting more of it when face to face with that luminary - if it were possible for a sphere to act as a reflector all over its face! But as the Moon's light pales before the rising Sun, it is a proof that the theory fails; and is gives us a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
57. The Newtonian hypothesis involves the necessity of. the Sun, in the case of a lunar eclipse, being on the opposite side of a globular earth, to cast its shadow on the Moon: but, since eclipses of the Moon have taken place with both the Sun and the Moon above the horizon, it follows that it cannot be the shadow of the Earth that eclipses the Moon; that the theory is a blunder; and that it is nothing less than a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
58. Astronomers have never agreed amongst themselves about a rotating Moon revolving round a rotating and revolving Earth - this Earth, Moon, planets and their satellites all, at the same time dashing through space, around the rotating and revolving Sun, towards the constellation Hercules, at the rate of four millions of miles a day! And they never will: agreement is impossible! With the a Earth a plane and without motion, the whole thing is clear. And if a straw will show which way the wind blows, this may be taken as a pretty strong proof that the Earth is not a globe.
59. Mr. Proctor says.- "The Sun is so far off that even moving from one side of the Earth to the other does not cause him to be seen in a different direction - at least the difference is too small to be measured." Now, since we know that north of the equator, say 45 degrees, we see the Sun at mid-day to the south, and that at the same distance south of the equator we see the Sun at mid-day to the north, our very shadows on the round cry aloud against the delusion of the day and give us a proof that Earth is not a globe.
60. There is no problem more important to the astronomer than that of the Sun's distance from the Earth. Every change in the estimate changes everything. NOW, since modern astronomers, in their estimate of this distance, have gone all the way along the line of figures from three millions of miles to a hundred and four millions - today, the distance being something over 91,000,000; it matters not how much: for, not many years ago, Mr. Hind gave the distance, "accurately," as 95,370,000! - it follows that they don't know, and that it is foolish for anyone to expect that they ever will know, the Sun's distance! And since all this speculation and absurdity is caused by the primary assumption that Earth is a wandering, heavenly body, and is all swept away by a knowledge of the fact that Earth is a, plane, it is a clear proof that Earth is not a globe.
61. It is plain that a theory of measurements without a measuring-rod is like a ship without a rudder; that a measure that is not fixed, not likely to be fixed, and never has been fixed, forms no measuring-rod at all; and that as modern theoretical astronomy depends upon the Sun's distance from the Earth as its measuring-rod, and the distance is not known, it is a system of measurements without a measuring-rod - a ship without a rudder. Now, since it is not difficult to foresee the dashing of this thing upon the rock on which Zetetic astronomy is founded, it is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
62. It is commonly asserted that "the Earth must be a globe because people have sailed round it." Now, since this implies that we can sail round nothing unless it be a globe, and the fact is well known that we can sail round the Earth as a plane, the assertion is ridiculous, and we have another proof that Earth is not a globe.
63. It is a fact not so well known as it ought to be that when a ship, in sailing away from us, has reached the point at which her hull is lost to our unaided vision, a good telescope will restore to our view this portion of the vessel. Now, since telescopes are not made to enable people to see through a "hill of water," it is clear that the hulls of ships are not behind a hill of water when they can be seen through a telescope though lost to our unaided vision. This is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
64. Mr. Glaisher, in speaking of his balloon ascents, says: "The horizon always appears to be on a level with the car." Now, since we may search among the laws of optics in vain for any principle that would cause the surface of a globe to turn its face upwards instead of downwards, it is a clear proof that the Earth is not a globe.
65. The Rev. D. Olmsted, in describing a diagram whish is supposed to represent the Earth as a globe, with a figure of a man sticking out at each side and one hanging head downwards, says "We should dwell on this point until it appears to us as truly up," In the direction given to these figures as it does with regard to a figure which he has placed on the top! Now, a system of philosophy which requires us to do something which is, really, the going out of our minds, by dwelling on an absurdity until we think it is a fact, Cannot be a system based on God's truth, which never requires anything of the kind. Since, then, the popular theoretical astronomy of the day requires this, it is evident that it is the wrong thing, and that this conclusion furnishes us with a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
66. It is often said that the predictions of eclipses prove astronomers to be right in their theories. But it is not seen that this proves too much. It is well known that Ptolemy predicted eclipses for six-hundred years, on the basis of a plane Earth, with as much accuracy as they are predicted by modern observers. If, then, the predictions prove the truth of the particular theories current at the time, they just as well prove one side of the question as the other, and enable us to lay claim to a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
67. Seven-hundred miles is said to be the length of the great Canal, in China, Certain it is that, when this canal was formed, no "allowance" was made for "curvature." Yet the canal is a fact without it. This is a Chinese proof that the Earth is not a globe.
68. Mr. J.M. Lockyer says: Because the Sun seems to rise in the east and set in the west, the Earth really spins in the opposite direction; that is, from west to east," Now, this is no better than though we were to say - Because a man seems to be coming up the street, the street really goes down to the man! And since true science would contain no such nonsense as this, it follows that the so-called science of theoretical astronomy is not true, and, we have another proof that the Earth is not a globe.
69. Mr. Lockyer says: "The appearances connected with the rising and setting of the Sun and stars may be due either to our earth being at rest and the Sun and stars traveling round it, or the earth itself turning round, while the Sun and stars are at rest." Now, since true science does not allow of any such beggarly alternatives as these, it is plain that modern theoretical astronomy is not true science, and that its leading dogma is a fallacy. We have, then, a plain proof that the Earth is not a globe.
70. Mr. Lockyer, in describing his picture of the supposed proof of the Earth's rotundity by means of ships rounding a "hill of water," uses these words: - "Diagram showing how, when we suppose the earth is round, we explain how it is that ships at sea appear as they do." This is utterly unworthy of the name of Science! A science that begins by supposing, and ends by explaining the supposition, is, from beginning to end, a mere farce. The men who can do nothing better than amuse themselves in this way must be denounced as dreamers only, and their leading dogma a delusion. This is a proof that Earth, not a globe.
76. Mr. J. R. Young, in his work on Navigation, says. "Although the path of the ship is on a spherical surface, yet we may represent the length of the path by, a straight line on a plane surface." (And plane sailing is the rule.) Now, since it is altogether impossible to "represent" a curved line by a straight one, and absurd to make the attempt, it follows that a straight line represents a straight line and not a curved one. And, Since it is the surface of the waters of the ocean that is being considered by Mr. Young, it follows that this surface is a straight surface, and we are indebted to Mr. Young, a professor of navigation, for a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
77. "Oh, but if the Earth is a plane, we could go to the edge and tumble over!" is a very common assertion. This is a conclusion that is formed too hastily, and facts overthrow it. The Earth certainly is, what man by his observation finds it to be, and what Mr. Proctor himself says it "seems" to be. flat - and we cannot cross the icy barrier which surrounds it. This is a complete answer to the objection, and, of course, a proof that Earth is not a globe.
78. "Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough," is often said by those who don't know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region - indirectly, to be sure - but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles - a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis. This is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
79. The remark is common enough that we can see the circle of the Earth if we cross the ocean, and that this proves it to be round. Now, if we tie a donkey to a stake on a level common, and he eats the grass all around him, it is only a circular disc that he has to do with, not a spherical mass. Since, then, circular discs may be seen anywhere - as well from a balloon in the air as from the deck of a ship, or from the standpoint of the donkey, it is a proof that the surface of the Earth is a plane surface, and, therefore, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
80. It is supposed,"in the regular course of the Newtonian theory, that the Earth is, in June, about 190 millions of miles (190,000,000) away from its position in December. Now, since we can, (in middle north latitudes), see the North Star, on looking out of a window that faces it - and out of the very same corner of the very same pane of glass in the very same window - all the year round, it is proof enough for any man in his senses that we have made no motion at all. It is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
81. Newtonian philosophers teach us that the Moon goes round: the Earth from west to east. But observation - man's most certain mode of gaining knowledge - shows us that the Moon never ceases to move in the opposite direction - from east to west. Since, then, we know that nothing can possibly move in two, opposite directions at the same time, it is a proof that the thing is a big blunder; and, in short, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
82. Astronomers tell us. that the Moon, goes round the Earth in about 28 days. Well, we may see her making her journey round every. day, if we make use of our eyes and these are about the best things we have to use. The Moon falls behind in her daily motion as compared with that of the Sun to the extent of one revolution in the time specified; but that is not making a revolution. Failing to go as fast as other bodies go in one direction does not constitute a going round in the opposite one - as the astronomers would have us believe! And, since all this absurdity has been rendered necessary for no other purpose than to help other absurdities along, it is clear that the astronomers are on the wrong track; and it needs no long train of reasoning to show that we have found a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
83. It has been shown that the meridians are, necessarily, straight lines; and that it is impossible to travel round the Earth in a north or south direction: from which it follows that, in the general acceptation of the word "degree" - the 360th - part of a circle - meridians have no degrees: for no one knows anything of a meridian circle or semicircle, to be thus divided. But astronomers speak of degrees of latitude in the same sense as those of longitude. This, then, is done by assuming that to be true which is not true. Zetetic philosophy does not involve this necessity. This proves that the basis of this philosophy is a sound one, and, in short, is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
84. If we move away from an elevated object on or over a plain or a prairie, the height of the object will apparently diminish as we do so. Now, that which is sufficient to produce this effect on a small scale is sufficient on a large one; and traveling away from an elevated object, no matter how far will cause the appearance in question - the lowering of the object. Our modern theoretical astronomers, however, in the case of the apparent lowering of the North Star as we travel southward, assert that it is evidence that the Earth is globular! But as it is clear that an appearance which is fully, accounted for on the basis of known facts cannot be permitted to figure as evidence in favor of that which is only a supposition, it follows that we rightfully order it to stand down, and make way for a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
85. There are rivers which flow east, west, north, an south - that is, rivers are flowing in all directions over the Earth's surface, and at the same time. Now, if the Earth were a globe, some of these rivers would be flowing up-hill and others down, taking it for a fact that there really is an "up" and a "down" in nature, whatever form she assumes. But, since rivers do not flow up-hill, and the globular theory requires that they should, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
86. If the Earth were a globe, rolling and dashing through "space" at the rate of "a hundred miles in five seconds of time," the waters of seas and oceans could not, by any known law, be kept on its surface - the assertion that they could be retained under these circumstances being an outrage upon human understanding and credulity! But as the Earth - that is, the habitable world of dry land - is found to be "standing out of the wafer and in the water" of the "mighty deep," whose circumferential boundary is ice, we may throw the statement back into the teeth of those who make it and flaunt before their faces the flag of reason and common sense, inscribed with a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
87. The theory of a rotating and revolving earth demands at theory to keep the water on its surface; but, as the. theory which is given for this purpose is as much opposed to all human experience as the one which it is intended to uphold, it is an illustration of the miserable makeshifts to which astronomers are compelled to resort, and affords, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
88. If we could - after our minds had once been opened to the light of Truth - conceive of a globular body on the surface of which human beings could exist, the power - no matter by what name it be called - that would hold them on would, then, necessarily, have to be so constraining and cogent that they could not live; the waters of the oceans would have to be as a solid mass, for motion would be impossible. But we not only exist, but live and move; and the water of the ocean skips and dances like a thing of life and beauty! This is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
89. It is well known that the law, regulating the apparent decrease in the size of objects as we leave them in the distance (or as they leave us) is very different with luminous bodies from what it is in the case of those which are non-luminous. Sail past the light of a small lamp in a row-boat on a dark night, and it will seem to be no smaller when a mile off than it was when close to it. Proctor says, in speaking of the Sun: "his apparent size does not change!" - far off or near. And then he forgets the fact! Mr. Proctor tells us, subsequently, that, if the traveler goes so far south that the North Star appears on the horizon, "the Sun should therefore look much larger" - if the Earth were a plane! Therefore, he argues, "the path followed cannot have been the straight course," - but a curved one. Now, since it is nothing but common scientific trickery to bring forward, as an objection to stand in the way of a plane Earth, the non-appearance of a thing which has never been known to appear at all, it follows that, unless that which appears to be trickery were an accident, it was the only course open to the objector - to trick. (Mr. Proctor, in a letter to the "English Mechanic" for Oct. 20,1871, boasts of having turned a recent convert to the Zetetic Philosophy by telling him that his arguments were all very good, but that "it seems as though [Mark the language!] the sun ought to look nine times larger in summer." And Mr. Proctor conclude's thus: "He saw, indeed, that, in his faith in "Parallax," he had "written himself down an ass.") Well, then: trickery or no trickery on the part of the objector, the objection is a counterfeit - a fraud - no valid objection at all; and it follows that the system which does not purge itself of these things is a rotten system, and the system which advocates, with Mr. Proctor at their head, a weapon to use - the Zetetic philosophy of "Parallax" - is destined to live! This is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
90. "Is water level, or is it not?" was a question once asked of an astronomer. "Practically, yes; theoretically, no," was the reply. Now, when theory does not harmonize with practice, the best thing to do is to drop the theory. (It is getting too late, now to say "So much the worse for the factsI") To drop the theory which supposes a curved surface to standing water is to acknowledge the facts which form the basis of Zetetic philosophy. And since this will have to be done sooner or later, - it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
91. "By actual observation," says Schoedler, in his " Book of Nature," we know that the other heavenly bodies are spherical, hence we unhesitatingly assert that the earth is so also." This is a fair sample of all astronomical reasoning. When a thing is classed amongst "other" things, the likeness between them must first be proven. It does not take a Schroedler to tell us that "heavenly bodies" are spherical, but " the greatest astronomer of the age" will not, now, dare to tell us that THE EARTH is - and attempt to prove it. Now, since no likeness has ever been proven to exist between the Earth and the heavenly bodies, the classification of the Earth with the heavenly bodies is premature - unscientific -false! This is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
92. "There is no inconsistency in supposing that the earth does move round the sun," says the Astronomer Royal of England. Certainly not, when theoretical astronomy is all supposition together! The inconsistency is in teaching the world that the thing supposed is a fact. Since, then, the "motion" of the Earth is supposition only - since, indeed, it is necessary to suppose it at all - it is plain that it is a fiction and not a fact; and, since "mobility" and "sphericity" stand or fall together, we have before us a proof that Earth is not a globe.
93, We have seen that astronomers - to give us a level surface on which to live - have cut off one-half of the "globe" in a certain picture in their books. [See page 6.] Now, astronomers having done this, one-half of the substance of their "spherical theory" is given up! Since, then, the theory must stand or fall in its entirety, it has really fallen when the half is gone. Nothing remains, then, but a plane Earth, which is, of course, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
94. In " Cornell's Geography" there is an "Illustrated proof of the Form of the Earth," A curved line on which is represented a ship in four positions, as she sails away from an observer, is an arc of 72 degrees, or one-fifth of the supposed circumference of the "globe" - about 5,000 miles. Ten, such ships as those which are given in the picture would reach the full length of the "arc," making 500 miles as the length of the ship, The man in the picture, who is watching the ship as she sails away, is about 200 miles high; and the tower, from which he takes an elevated view, at least 600 miles high. These are the proportions, then, of men, towers, arid ships which are necessary in order to see a ship, in her different positions, as she "rounds the curve" of the "great hill of water" over which she is supposed to be sailing: for, it must be remembered that this supposed "proof" depends upon lines and angles of vision which, if enlarged, would still retain their characteristics. Now, since ships are not built 500 miles long, with masts in proportion, and men are not quite 200 miles high, it is not what it is said to be - a proof of rotundity - but, either an ignorant farce or a cruel piece of deception. In short, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
95. In "Cornell's Intermediate Geography," (1881) page 12, is an "Illustration of the Natural Divisions of Land and Water." This illustration is so nicely drawn that it affords, at once, a striking proof that Earth is a plane. It is true to nature, and bears the stamp of no astronomer-artist. It is a pictorial proof that Earth is not a globe.
96. If we refer to the diagram in "Cornell's Geography," page 4, and notice the ship in its position the most remote from the observer, we shall find that, though it is about 4,000 miles away, it is the same size as the ship that is nearest to him, distant about 700 miles! This a an illustration of the way in which astronomers ignore the laws of perspective. This course is necessary, or they would be compelled to lay bare the fallacy of their dogmas. In short, there is, in this matter, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
97. Mr. Hind, the English astronomer, says - "The simplicity, with which the seasons are explained by the revolution of the Earth in her orbit and the obliquity of the ecliptic, may certainly be adduced as a strong presumptive proof of the correctness" - of the Newtonian theory; "for on no other rational suppositions with respect to the relations of the Earth and Sun, can these and other as well-known phenomena, be accounted for." But, as true philosophy has no "suppositions" at all - and has nothing to do with, "suppositions" - and the phenomena spoken of are thoroughly explained by facts, the "presumptive proof" falls to the ground, covered with the ridicule it the dust of Mr. Hind's "rational suppositions" we are standing before us a proof that Earth is not a globe.
98. Mr Hind speaks of the astronomer watching a star as it is carried across the telescope by the diurnal revolution of the Earth." Now, this is nothing but downright absurdity. No motion of the Earth could possibly carry a star across a telescope or anything else. If the star is carried across anything at all, it is the star that moves, not the thing across which it is carried! Besides, the idea that the Earth, if it were a globe, could possibly move in an orbit of nearly 600,000,000 of miles with such exactitude that the cross-hairs in a telescope fixed on its surface would appear to glide gently over a star "millions of millions" of miles away is simply monstrous; whereas, with a FIXED telescope, it matters not the distance of the stars, though we suppose them to be as far off as the astronomer supposes them to be; for, as Mr. Proctor himself says, "the further away they are, the less they will seem to shift." Why, in the name of common sense, should observers have to fix their telescopes on solid stone bases so that they should not move a hair's-breadth, - if the Earth on which they fix them move at the rate of nineteen miles in a second? Indeed, to believe that Mr. Proctor's mass of "six thousand million million million tons" is "rolling, surging, flying, darting on through space for ever" with a velocity compared with which a shot from a cannon is a "very slow coach," with such unerring accuracy that a telescope fixed on granite pillars in an observatory will not enable a lynx-eyed astronomer to detect a variation in its onward motion of the thousandth part of a hair's-breadth is to conceive a miracle compared with which all the miracles on record put together would sink into utter insignificance. Captain R. J. Morrison, the late compiler of "Zadkeil's Almanac;" says: "We declare that this "motion" is all mere 'bosh'; and that the arguments which uphold it are, when examined with an eye that seeks for TRUTH only, mere nonsense, and childish absurdity. "Since, then, these absurd theories are of no use to men in their senses, and since there is no necessity for anything of the kind in Zetetic philosophy, it is a "strong presumptive proof" - as Mr. Hind would say that the Zetetic philosophy is true, and, therefore, a proof that Earth is not a globe..
99. Mr. Hind speaks of two great mathematicians differing only fifty-five yards in their estimate of the Earth's diameter. Why, Sir John Herschel, in his celebrated work, cuts off 480 miles of the same thing to get "round numbers!" This is like splitting a hair on one side of the bead and shaving all the hair off on the other! Oh, "science!" Can there be any truth in a science like this? All the exactitude in astronomy is in Practical astronomy - not Theoretical. Centuries of observation have made practical astronomy a noble art and science, based - as we have a thousand times proved it to be - on a fixed Earth; and we denounce this pretended exactitude on one side and the reckless indifference to figures on the other as the basest trash, and take from it a proof that the "science" which tolerates it is a false - instead of being an "exact" - science, and we have a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
100. The Sun, as he travels round over the surface of the Earth, brings "noon" to all places on the successive meridians which he crosses: his journey being made in a westerly direction, places east of the Sun's position have had their noon, whilst places to the west of the Sun's position have still to get it. Therefore, if we travel easterly, we arrive at those parts of the Earth where "time" is more advanced, the watch in our pocket has to be "put on"or we may be said to "gain time." If, on the other hand, we travel westerly, we arrive at places where it is still "morning," the watch has to be "put back," and it may be said that we "lose time." But, if we travel easterly so as to cross the 180th meridian, there is a loss, there, of a day, which will neutralize the gain of a whole circumnavigation; and, if we travel westerly, and cross the same meridian, we experience the gain of a day, which will compensate for the loss during a complete circumnavigation in that direction. The fact of losing or gaining time in sailing round the world, then, instead of being evidence of the Earth's "rotundity," as it is imagined to be, is, in its practical exemplification, an everlasting proof that the Earth is not a globe.
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SIMPLE DEMONSTRATION OF THE EARTH IF IT WAS A BALL SPINNING AROUND THE SUN ...THIS IS SO SIMPLE ===>>> https://www.facebook.com/boriangallo/videos/10200900696636186/ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, people tell me that they actually only count 23 hours and 56 minutes to make this issue work out... YET WHY DO WE USE A 24 HOUR CLOCK THEN ???? LOL CRAZY PEOPLE FALLING FOR FAKE SCIENCE ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT IS A SHAME IS THE JESUIT INFLUENCE AT COLLEGES INTO SCIENCE THAT TEACHES LIES ..
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THEY
ARE HIDING GOD .. SCIENCE AND GOVERNMENT WANTS MANKIND TO THINK WE ARE A
SPECK IN THE UNIVERSE AND WE EVOLVED FROM APES BUT WE ARE UNDER A DOME /
FIRMAMENT THAT GOD CREATED AND HE IS WITH US ABOVE..STOP FALLING FOR
THE LIES OF SCIENCE AND NASA AND STOP WATCHING THE "BOOB TUBE" IT IS
PROPAGANDA PEOPLE..
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SPACESHIP JUNKYARD / CEMETERY ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7noXYDZE6EU&feature=share spaceship junkyard in pacific ocean on flat earth http://gizmodo.com/this-watery-graveyard-holds-161-sunken-spaceships-1703212211 ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fd3kpAP6Ms ............................ Flat Earth The Sun & The Vanishing Point - Planets Don't Exist - ISS Footage Of "Ball Earth" Exposed ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

DO YOUR MATH GLOBEHEADS =====>>> math proves there is no curve... the math is mile squared times 8 inches .. 1 mile = 8 inches 2 miles = 2x2=4 x8= 32 inches 3rd mile = 3x3x8= 72 inches 4th = 4x4x8= 128 inches 10 miles = 100x8=800 inches 800 inches divided by 12 = 66.66 ft .. 20 miles = 400x8=3200 divided by 12 = 266.66 ft .. so if a person is looking across from NJ pine barens 60 miles away to phila Pa center city they shouldn't be able to see the buildings but they can 60x60=3600x8=28800 divided by 12 = 2400 ft below the curve .. but center city can be seen 60 miles away .. there IS NO CURVE ... THIS IS THE SAME DRIVING FROM MIAMI TO THE KEYS ..OR DRIVING FROM LOUSIANA ALONG INTERSTATE 10 THRU THE SWAMPS .. NO CURVE ... AND PEOPLE WATCHING A BOAT AT SEA GO OUT THEN DISAPPEAR THEN PUT ON BINOCULARS AND THERE IT IS AGAIN.. THEN KEEP WATCHING IT GO OUT UNTIL IT DISAPPEARS THEN USE A TELESCOPE THEM BOOM IT APPEARS AGAIN... THERE IS NO CURVE... SHIPS AT SEA SEE LIGHTHOUSE FOR 60 MILES AWAY ... ON A CURVED EARTH THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE 2x2x8 = 32 inches 3x3x8= 72 inches 4x4x8= 128 inches 5x5x8=200 inches 10x10x8= 800 inches divided by 12 inches = 66.66 ft you can see the curve increases dramatically for a globe which proves we are not on a globe .. maybe not exactly flat but not a globe

100 Proofs The Earth is not a Globe; WM. Carpenter. published 1885 ... is that of a concave surface PLUS OVER 350 COMMENTS OF FLAT EARTH CLUES I HAVE ADDED https://www.facebook.com/notes/daniel-erline/100-proofs-the-earth-is-not-a-globe-wm-carpenter-published-1885-is-that-of-a-con/508238822673241
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This picture is a REAL non-photoshopped photograph taken from a high altitude plane in a project called AirPano.

You can check out all the pics here: http://m.airpano.com/360Degree-VirtualTour.php?3D=Stratosphere-Caucasus

But ask yourself, how can there be thousands upon thousands of square miles of flat land (deserts, salt flats, oceans are flat, plains) on a ball? How can the horizon from the stratosphere be completely flat and rise to meet your eye level on a ball with a horizon that constantly curves downward? It's NOT POSSIBLE! The earth is FLAT! WAKE UP!!
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OUR FATHER ABOVE IS THE ONLY REASON THEY CREATED THE GLOBE to hide his truth and push satans lies... RELIGIONS LIE TOO ....
and steal the taxpayers money too .
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This should explain the Moon and its phases 100%. You can verify all of this with your own eyes.................... POSSIBLE MOON PHASES DESCRIBED ............................
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Recent news events, if you are awake, will confirm to you that we do not live on a spinning ball. They very fact that the USA is worried that Russia can cut-off 0ver 90% of the west's communications by,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, CUTTING INTO UNDERSEA CABLES,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, should be a big clue to anyone willing to reason that there are NO SATELLITES providing communication. I look at a few other stories also which are eye openers for those who do not have their "logic and reason switch" turned off. Its time to face reality and WAKE UP!
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FLAT EARTH CALCULATOR FROM ANCIENT TIMES TO CALCULATE SUN AND MOON AND STARS ABOVE THE FLAT EARTH .......................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=401243863403040&set=gm.1655948434619697&type=3&theater
Tracey Crookes
Watched it and was left with so many more questions. Back to class. lol.
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For The Love Of Humanity ........................ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LkzthEuCio
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This is NOT a video that disproves the heliocentric model so it is NOT recommended as an evidentiary video offering. Rather, this video gives ammunition to the globe-heads that FE people are not able to comprehend how the model of the rotating and orbiting (imaginary) earth could always be facing the sun at high noon as it orbits the sun.
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THESE PEOPLE OWN THE NEWS AND THE GOVERNMENT AND TRY TO CONTROL ALL YOU THINK ===> http://theunjustmedia.com/Media/Six%20Jewish%20Companies%20Control%2096%25%20of%20the%20World%E2%80%99s%20Media.htm
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https://www.facebook.com/FlatEarthTshirtCo/videos/930855200334352/ .................................................... How Can Sound And Water Make Light?
Ever Look Up At The Night Sky And Wonder Whats Stars Really Are?
Well Then You Will Love This.

Flat Earth Answers - Proofs and Truths
Creation Part 1
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NOT SURE OF THIS ONE NEEDS RESEARCH ...................................THIS IS JUST ONE RESPONSE TO THE BLOG THERE DATED BACK IN APRIL MAY 2014 ,,,MANY MORE RESPONSES THERE TOO .. WITH ONE MAN FLYING FROM ANTARCTICA STATION TO STATION ... IF HE CAN ...;

I think I just came across the most obvious and totally undeniable proof that the earth is not a globe.

Global coordinates are latitude and longitude. Both are in degrees. Latitude is the circles that go around the globe. The circle around the equator is zero and it goes up to 90 degrees north, that is the north pole and down to 90 degrees south, that is the south pole. The distance each degree covers is about 81 miles I think and that is going to be the same on a ball earth and a flat earth. So not controversy here.

But Longitude is the number of degrees starting from Greenwich, which is close to London. That is zero and it goes around the globe 360 degrees back to Greenwich…

So on a globe the distance that one degree would cover changes dramatically. It is very small at the poles and at its maximum at the equator.

So if the Earth was a globe we would expect the distance covered within one degree of latitude to increase from the north pole up to the equator where it would be at its maximum and then it should start to decease back to zero at the south pole…

This is very easy to check and it appears that it does not decrease as you go into the southern hemisphere but instead increases. It is very simple to check and anyone can do it.

For example:

Very roughly the distance from the equator and of the trip from New York to Los Angeles and the distance from the equator of the trip between Sydney and Perth is about the same. Very roughly the trip in the US is around 35 degrees North of the Equator and the trip in Australia is roughly 35 degrees South of the Equator…

So we would expect to travel roughly the same distance as we travel through one degree of longitude on both trips. But the big surprise is we do not. We have to travel a lot more kilometeres to cover one degree of latitude in Australia than we have to do in the US. Which can not be if the earth is a globe…

New York: 40° 45′ N, 73° 59′ W — Los Angeles: 34° 3′ N, 118° 14′ W

On this trip you cover 44.25 degrees of longitude (118.23 – 73.98 = 44.25) so 3936 km / 44.25 = 89 Kilometers per degree of longitude. Which is OK for a globe earth because if you multiply 89 * 360 (360 degrees makes a complete circle) that comes to 32040 km which is considerably less than the circumference of the earth at equator = 40075 km. So everything is good for a globe earth. Great.

But things start to get very crazy when we do the same thing for the Sydney – Perth trip…

Sydney: 33° 52′ S, 151° 12′ E — Perth: 31° 57′ S 115° 52′ E

Here we cover 35 degrees of longitude and the distance is about 4110 km so that means we have to travel 117.5 km (4110 / 35) to cover one degree of longitude. Which is much more than the 89 kilometers we had to travel to cover one degree in the Northern Hemisphere at roughly the same distance from the equator… Very strange. Very strange indeed.

And even stranger if we multiply out the distance we have to travel in one degree by 360 to get the circumference of the ‘ball’ earth in Australia it comes to 117.5 * 360 = 42300 km. Which is totally impossible if the earth is a globe… Because the circumference at the equator is only 40075 km… So in Australia, South of the Equator, the circumference of the earth must be less than 40075… If the earth is a globe. But it is not and anyone can easily check this.

So unless you can point out some mistake in this calculation this is 100% solid proof that the earth is not a globe…

It is rather uncomfortable for me so if I have made a mistake please someone point it out…

We should get much the same circumference for the earth in Australia as they have in the USA… Something like 32000 km. But it is not 32000 km, it is about 42000 km… This is impossible. 10,000 km bigger than what we would expect if the earth was a globe… More than 2000 km bigger than the earth is at the equator. Certainly not a globe…

http://fakeologist.com/2015/04/19/ricks-flat-earth-proof/#ixzz3qMCFK7PA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFRilCg_k_E&list=PLltxIX4B8_UTwSA00s4i3TTrFV_zm9uL7&index=8 ...............................AMAZING ....................OUR FATHER SPEAKS TO THIS MAN ......................................
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These scriptures don't SUPPORT a "Blue Marble" model..
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or " not stationary" or "spinning" .. etc.. all the "truths" the scientists have TAUGHT us.. that is WHY we have to keep looking at this "FLAT" model..
Rev 7:1 Four corners
Rev 20:8 Four corners
Isaiah 41:9 Ends of the earth
Isaiah 11:12 Four corners of the earth
Job 37:3 Ends of the earth
Job 38:13 & 14 Ends of the earth & earth like clay under a seal

67 scriptures reference the SUN and NOT the earth moving..
Genesis 15:12...... "...and when the sun was going down..."

15:17..... "...when the sun went down..."

19:23..... "The sun was risen upon the earth."

28:11..... "...because the sun was set...."

32:31..... "...the sun rose...."

Exodus 17:12..... "...until the going down of the sun...."

22:3...... "...if the sun be risen upon him...."

22:26.... "...the sun goeth down...."

Leviticus 22:7...... "...And when the sun is down...."

Numbers 2:3........ "...toward the rising of the sun...."

Deuteronomy 11:30..... "...the way where the sun goeth down...."

16:6....... "...at the going down of the sun...."

23:11..... "...when the sun is down...."

24:13..... "...when the sun goeth down...."

24:15..... "...neither shall the sun go down...."

Joshua 1:4..... "...the going down of the sun...."

8:29... "...as soon as the sun was down...."

10:12.. "...Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon...."

10:13.. "...and the sun stood still...."

10:27.. "...the time of the going down of the sun...."

12:1.... "...toward the rising of the sun...."

Judges 5:31.... "...as the sun when he goeth down...."

8:13.... "...before the sun was up...."

9:33.... "...as soon as the sun is up...."

14:18.... "...before the sun went down...."

19:14.... "...and the sun went down...."

II Samuel 2:24.... "...the sun went down...."

3:35.... "...till the sun be down...."

23:4..... "...when the sun riseth...."

I Kings 22:36.... "...the going down of the sun...."

I Chronicles 16:30.... "...the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved...."

II Chronicles 18:34.... "...time of the sun going down...."

Job 9:7.... "...commandeth the sun and it riseth not...."

Job 26:7.... "...He hangeth the earth upon nothing...."

Psalm 19:4.... "...tabernacle for the sun...."

19:5 ... "...cometh out to run...."

19:6.... "...goes forth in a circle from one end of heaven to the other...."

50:1.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

93:1.... "...the world also is stablished that it cannot be moved...."

104:19.. "...the sun knoweth his going down...."

104:22.. "...the sun ariseth...."

113:3.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

Ecclesiastes 1:5.... "...The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down and hasteth to the place where he arose...."

Isaiah 13:10.... "...sun shall be darkened in his going...."

38:8...... "...is gone down on the sundial of Ahaz...."

38:8...... "...so the sun returned...."

41:25.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

45:6...... "...from the rising of the sun...."

59:19.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

60:20.... "...the sun shall no more go down...."

Jeremiah 15:9.... "...her sun is gone down while it was yet day...."

Daniel 6:14.... "...going down of the sun...."

Amos 8:9.... "...cause the sun to go down at noon...."

Jonah 4:8.... "...when the sun did arise...."

Micah 3:6.... "...and the sun shall go down...."

Nahum 3:17.... "...when the sun ariseth...."

Habakkuk 3:11.... "...the sun and moon stood still in their habitation...."

Malachi 1:11.... "...from the rising of the sun...."

Matthew 5:45.... "...for He maketh His sun to rise...."

13:6..... "...and when the sun was up...."

Mark 1:32.... "...when the sun did set...."

4:6...... "...when the sun was up...."

16:2...... "...at the rising of the sun...."

Luke 4:40.... "...when the sun was setting...."

Ephesians 4:26.... "...let not the sun go down upon your wrath...."

James 1:11.... "...for the sun is no sooner risen...."
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http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/nov/02/space-artist-pluto-nasa-david-a-hardy-arthur-c-clarke
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James Fogg was in charge of photographing classified documentation regarding the space shuttle and saw some things that just didn't look right. Could it be that NASA lied?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the shuttle only had a place for one person to fly / land it but supposedly many went on board but only one flew it back to land ... SCAM FRAUD ...LIARS NASA ....................
Daniel Erline
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My goal is to make Believers in Christ, who are enlightened to this TRUTH, aware that they have an obligation to inform Christians who are not aware, or at least, give them a fair warning as to the coming "Shock" of Reality!! Send comments to: harold.mcdaniel2@aol.com
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgt3V-2xPFU&feature=youtu.be ................................. very good video with many attackers proving how well done it is.......................AMEN
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MORE OF HIS INTERESTING VIDEOS ...................................................................... https://www.youtube.com/user/MrSteveblakey/videos
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRyo4cSESQ ................................................................ Astronauts are brave men and women, but can we trust NASA? Do they tell the truth? Are vested interests at stake? In light of all the latest revelations about water on Mars and possible life on other planets, can we trust the images we are being shown and the statements that are being made? There is a better version of this film here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxxzEIzDVU

In light of NASA recently sacking Christian scientists are they part of the 'progressive' atheistic agenda to move humanity away from a belief in God with emphasis on the materialistic model while imply that life is everywhere in the Universe. Many people suspect NASA are about to pull of another deception as big or bigger than the moon landing hoax and it is for this reason that this documentary movie was made. NASA have achieved great things, the space shuttle for example, although it was essentially an airplane attached two large fireworks which proved inherently unsafe. It would be wise for us to not get swept along with the progressive agenda in which mankind conquers all if that narrative is untrue or we may have far too much faith in ourselves to our own determent and self destruction.
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https://www.facebook.com/piphd/videos/10153385623383073/ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GYROSCOPES IS A PROBLEM ON A GLOBE SPINNING AROUND THE SUN... ...............IN THIS VIDEO ...ALSO WHAT ABOUT THE WEIGHT SHIPPED AROUND THE WORLD THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR BALANCE .........The Law of Precession
Mastermind Icon The Law of Precession is one of the subsidiary laws to the one great law "energy is", it says that when a body in motion towards another body (because of gravity or because it is simply attracted to it), then always - at a 90° right angle to that line of attraction – there is an equal if not a greater result that is being generated. ....................http://www.mastermind-business.com/precession.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90zneJONh0w .........................................................THIS TELLS HOW AFTER THE FAKE MOON FILM WAS MADE NIXON HAD THE PEOPLE MURDERED.. EXCEPT FOR STANLY KUBRIK WHO NEVER LEFT HIS PROPERTY FOR FEAR OF BEING MURDERED BUT HE WAS GIVEN BY NASA THE RIGHT TO USE A SPECIAL CAMERA FOR HAVING TAKEN THE FAKE MOON LANDING FILM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovN1UZEz1M .....................................................................here he explains zionism and jewish control over the goyum...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGog8Bdy0aI&feature=share ......................................BUSTED MAKING EDITS TO DO THEIR NASA TRICKERY ...................... NASTY NASA ...,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Lesta Nediam 15 hours ago
For what it's worth - when the camera zooms in close to ostensibly show us what's on the brush - yes, that too is also a completely new take. But that is more easily "dismissed" by "NASA" apologists/enablers and so isn't my focus. My focus is on the radical change going on with the background person! That huge positional change (if it's even the same person; if it's even the same clothing!) is undeniable and categorically means that this "simple brushing of teeth scene" was carefully filmed using a large number of takes (far more than you'd think necessary for such a thing). The question you should have on your mind is: why would they need to use so many takes?! And if the takes can be "innocently explained" then why try to make them appear to be a part of a single smooth motion?! With this video the "NASA" apologists/enablers have a lot of explaining to do. But then again so does the "truther" community - for the video I have used was posted way back in 2009! Just over SIX years ago! *How can it be that MY video is the only one that's pointing out these things?!
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Basic Geometry of a Sphere: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The Global Earth theorists for 500 years have been telling us the Earth is a sphere. IF the earth is a globe, and is 25,000 English statute miles in circumference, the surface of all standing water must have a certain degree of convexity–every part must be an arc of a circle.

From the summit of any such arc there will exist a curvature or declination of 8 inches in the first statute mile. In the second mile the fall will be 32 inches; in the third mile, 72 inches, or 6 feet, as shown in the diagram above. Spherical trigonometry dictates that a ball-Earth 25,000 miles in circumference would curvate 8 inches per mile varying inversely with the square of the mile, so after six miles there would be an easily detectable and measurable 16 feet, 8 inches of downward curvature.

To determine how much the Earth falls away on the curve you take miles squared X eight inches. This is an inverse relationship so the farther one travels the greater the distance of feet or miles the Earth will fall away.

Let the distance from T to figure 1 represent 1 mile, and the fall from 1 to A, 8 inches; then the fall from 2 to B will be 32 inches, and from 3 to C, 72 inches. In every mile after the first, the curvature downwards from the point T increases as the square of the distance multiplied by 8 inches. The rule, however, requires to be modified after the first thousand miles."

— 1 Miles squared X 8 inches
— one foot = .000189394 miles
— Curvature of Earth
— 1 mile 5.33 ft. or .12626 mile
— 10 miles 66.666 ft. or 1.2626 miles
— 100 miles 6,666.66 ft. or 12.626 miles
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The Globe Earth Lie:http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-globe-earth-lie.html For 500 years an elite cabal of Masonic Sun-worshippers has propagated the nihilstic, atheistic globe-Earth cosmology / cosmogony unquestioningly believed today by the vast majority of the world. We have been taught, contrary to all common sense and experience, that the seemingly motionless, flat Earth beneath our feet is actually a massive moving ball spinning through space at over 1,000 miles per hour, wobbling and tilted 23.5 degrees on its vertical axis, while orbiting the sun at a blinding 67,000 miles per hour, in concert with the entire solar system spiraling 500,000 miles per hour around the Milky Way and careening across the expanding universe away from the “Big Bang” at an incredible 670,000,000 miles per hour, but that you feel and experience none of it! We have been taught that a mysterious force called “gravity,” a magical magnetism responsible for keeping everything from falling or flying off the spinning ball-Earth, is just strong enough to hold people, oceans, and the atmosphere tightly to the surface, but just weak enough to allow bugs, birds and planes to take off with ease! We have been taught that the universe was unintelligently designed and randomly created in a cosmic coincidence of nothing inexplicably becoming everything! We have been taught that through millions upon millions of years of accidental “evolution” and happenstance the Big Bang universe began manifesting suns, moons, planets, then water, then somehow out of dead, inert elements, single-celled conscious organisms came to life, grew and multiplied and mutated into larger, different organisms which continued to grow, multiply and mutate gaining diversity and complexity (and losing credibility) to the point where amphibians crawled up on land, replaced gills with lungs, started breathing air, maturated into mammals, became bipedal, grew opposable thumbs, evolved into monkeys, then in one final fluke adaptation a hybrid monkey-man was made and the rest is human history!...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmnMJoFQHk0&feature=youtu.be ..........................here an old tape from 1969 is found and shows the faking
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10 problems with the globe. Flat earth proof!
http://youtu.be/otWGXkqp2QY
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Here is the Hunter moon as seen in the U.S. and Canada. Both the moon and sun appear with one rising as the other is setting.

Question.. If the moon is just a reflection of light from the sun and the sun is clearly behind the moon (by supposedly millions of miles) how can we see the moon reflect light that comes from far behind it?

Only the Flat Earth theory, which is consistent with the Bible, explains this.
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Michael Fenemore added 3 new photos.
Yesterday at 11:55am · Edited ·

Enjoying NASA's photos of Mars? They might be pictures of Devon Island, Canada.

These photos are available on Google Earth right now. NASA is up in the Arctic taking pictures of, well, Mars. Notice the NASA logos on the Humvee.

In Google Earth, in the options pane at the left under "Layers," and under "Gallery," click the check box for "Gigapan Photos."

Then, go to the following coordinates. Zoom in and look at the photos. You need to click the little magnifying glass with the little "g" in the centre.

Roving the Arctic:
75°26'5.31"N
89°51'58.27"W

Arctic camp:
75°25'59.82"N
89°51'46.51"W

Drill Hill:
75°25'14.97"N
89°45'35.74"W
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+Gary Edmore I get what you are saying. I agree but those that have studied mass media and the new world order will understand they love presenting truth hidden in plain sight. Those that can read between the lines understand that there is a reason they hate Christ and everything to do with the bible. They are puppets of Satan but God will overcome through the power of the Holy Spirit. Blessings.
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The Censorship of Geocentrism by Victor the Baptist
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http://reformation.edu/scripture-science/index.htm THIS IS THE SITE OF THE SCIENTIST THAT PROVES THE EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE,,,,,........................http://reformation.edu/scripture-science/index.htm
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THE GLOBE EARTH PEEPS / NASA LIES AND MAKES EVERYTHING OPPOSITE OF THE BIBLE ............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnIx6x6uO3Q&feature=share .......................AND THEY USE JETS TO FLY WITH THE SHUTTLE TO MAKE NOISE BECAUSE THE SHUTTLES ARE NOT GLIDERS BUT JETS TOO...
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==>>>> HERE YOU CAN SEE IN MY COMMENTS OVER 450 FLAT EARTH CLUES REFUTING THE GLOBE ................. CLICK THE "SEE MORE" COMMENTS ...PLUS THE 100 THAT THIS MAN WROTE IN THE 1800'S ............................. https://www.facebook.com/notes/daniel-erline/100-proofs-the-earth-is-not-a-globe-wm-carpenter-published-1885-is-that-of-a-con/508238822673241 ...................................................PLEASE DO not like all my comments ... it is too annoying getting 450 likes ................... please take any you like ..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2YjLdgiok4&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop ...........................................................WOW! This is amazing information. The patent is basically referring to the Azimuthal equidistant projection : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projection which by the way is the map that the USGS (United States Geological Survey) uses today as the most accurate map. Now, this invention is an application /device that is used with the Azimuthal equidistant projection which ACCURATELY without mathematics can chart all meridians, star formations, longitude and latitude lines, altitudes , azimuths and even time lines. Basically, it is using a flat earth map to determine everything from astronomy, position and time with COMPLETE ACCURACY.
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Really? A planisphere is an astronomical device that is used to help find constellations in the night sky based on the current time, date, and hemispherical positioning. I use one every time I teach the astronomy merit badge to boys in our scout troop. Astronomical positioning has been used for centuries by our ancestors for use in navigation: sailing, navigating in the darkness of night before there were signs and lights everywhere, etc. This also becomes very useful as a directional aid when applied to the lat/long positioning coordinates to determine traveling direction. Lat and long coordinates are only useful on a spherical based map, correct? North/South equidistant maps would not work as a flat earth map, as it is assumed that there is no south pole, correct? Please verify your facts before posting nonsense next time. This is just a computer system that is combining a map and as much available navigational data possible for a targeting or positioning system.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfMZ9sDXAp0 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Researching the flat earth for the past year has been a guilty pleasure that I never wanted to admit, but I can't keep it in any longer. I am prepared to be ridiculed by the ignorant majority. The more I look into ways to debunk the flat earth, the more reinforcement I find. The support for the spinning globe only comes from blind faith and cognitive dissonance. This is a subject that affects everybody and most people would care if they actually accepted the facts. One fact being that the ball earth can't be proven. We have no pictures of the earth and the curvature is nowhere to be found. We will being going over that and much more in this video. Thanks for watching.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRYXjtmW6n4 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SEE 4 OF THE WORLDS LONGEST RIVERS THAT FLOW NORTH TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE FLAT EARTH .....................1ST ONE IS .750 MILES WOULD MAKE 340000 FEET DROP ON A CURVED EARTH ...............SEE VIDEO TO SEE THE REST
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GOOD VIDEO OF THE RISING AND SETTING SUN AS IT LIGHTS UP THE CLOUDS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ_tNZbJtk0
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MUSIC PROPAGANDA BEING USED TO FOG THE MINDS OF THE PEOPLE ................................................................. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqjyoMifNT8 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, SATANIC ILLUMINATI EVIL MASONS ......................... ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY TOO.................. LIES... EVIL..... THEY EVEN HAVE THE OLD MAN BUZZ ALDRIN,,,,,,,,,, PLAYING JOKER ASTRONAUT TO CRAZED THEMES ..................
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=998787873514107&set=a.998800960179465&type=3&theater ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, CLICK THIS TO SEE 97 PICS OF TRUTH OF THE FLAT EARTH AND THE FAKERY BY THE EVIL ONES NASA AND MASONS ETC ETC ..........................WOW .................
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a GODLY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE FLAT EARTH AND WHAT MAY COME AS THE TRUTH GETS OUT ................................................................................................. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zfyB8MjF8&feature=youtu.be
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4YqPtvJao&feature=share ..................... 2 hours long ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The Flat Earth model is a belief that the Earth's shape is a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures have had conceptions of a flat Earth, including Greece. It was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas. They believed in a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl. A lot of people today, believe that the Earth is round but they've never seen it from a distance. Not even being on an airplane could reveal the true shape to someone who doesn't know. Being on top of the highest mountain wouldn't help either. Is NASA and it's friends lying to us about the world? Keep an open mind. There's no good reason to doubt it. (Production/Narration by Mark Sargent)
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HERE IS AN ARTICLE WRITTEN IN 1987 ............................................................................................. ..................................... http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The Flat-Earth Bible
© 1987, 1995 by Robert J. Schadewald
Reprinted from The Bulletin of the Tychonian Society #44 (July 1987)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mzh-CWImMA ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHIC EXAMINATIONS OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS MAKES THIS APPEAR AS A FABRICATION..................
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzcTOOiGk1k .............................................................................. The Flat Earth 2015 - The Full Documentary (Updated)
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SOUTHERN FLIGHT WITH GREAT RESULTS .......................... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa83yp-mzIc&list=FLb9HY6o6EBZ87Mb40uWvBJg&feature=share ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, SEE ATTACHED CONVERSATIONS BELOW and another ..............VIDEO = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itdGg7DhNCU ....... WHICH MEANS THE FLAT EARTH MAP WE HAVE,,,,,,,,,,,, MAY NOT BE RIGHT ...... BUT THE GYRO ISSUE STILL PROVES A FLAT EARTH ...
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John le Bon 17 hours ago (edited)
One of the most important videos related to the flat earth theory I have seen to date. Many thanks for taking the time to put this together and uploading. I am pleasantly surprised that you were allowed into the cockpit, I thought they had basically banned that practice after 9/11. Good on the pilots and crew for you giving you this time. If I could meet them, I would buy them a round of beers. I learned a lot from the pilot's answers.

I seem to recall that a few flat earthers were claiming that this flight does not exist. Are they going to dispute the legitimacy of this video, or are they going to publicly retract their claims that the flight does not exist? I remember that I was challenged live on the air when I said that I had personally flown Johannesburg to Perth nonstop. It would seem that the 'mysterious' southern flight routes do indeed exist if we are to take this video on face value. Perhaps some people might argue that a phantom refueling was conducted during the producer's seven hours of sleep, which is obviously possible in theory, but is it likely in practice? I think not.

The next major issue is the consequence this flight would have for the prevailing flat earth maps/models/concepts which seem to centre on either the Azimuthal-Equidistant map or something similar. How could a commercial plane fly from one side of the flat earth to the other in thirteen hours? If this video is to be taken on face value, does this spell the end of the AE map? If not, how can the flight be accounted for if Australia and South America are on opposite sides of a flat earth?

The ball earthers also have a big issue to deal with. How can you explain the behaviour of the artificial horizon instrument? The explanation of its mechanics provided in this video does not seem to account for how it could magically stay level on a curved earth. Is there more to the story than presented in this video? If so, I would like to hear it.

Finally, one of the youtube comments repeated at the end of the video does not sit well with me. If you accept the notion of 'gravity', it would make sense that a spirit level would remain level over the course of the journey, as the direction of the gravitational force would change during the course of the flight and always remain pointing 'down' the earth. Of course, no sane person who has looked into it properly will blindly accept the notion of 'gravity' in the first place, but I still think the point needs to be made.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to put this video together. Terrific work. Cheers.

EDIT: I have since learned that the footage from within the cockpit is not from the uploader of this video but from a flight enthusiast named Sam Chui. My general sentiments expressed above remain the same, though.
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odiupicku 14 hours ago
+John le Bon First of all, thank you very much for your nice words and the recognition of the importance of this video in a sense of making the final step/attempt to put this question beyond dispute once and for all!!!

I will split my answer in two different posts :

THE FIRST POST :

I have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the earth simply can't be round. There are many reasons why the earth can't be round (in my other videos you can find a whole set of explanations for many of these reasons).

I would like to emphasize (here as well) just a few of them :

T H E E A R T H I S F L A T :

1. http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62346.msg1661480#msg1661480
2. http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62346.msg1659899#msg1659899
3. http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62346.msg1660101#msg1660101
4. http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62346.msg1669224#msg1669224

ZIGZAG argument video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEV72BLMrrs
STAR TRAILS argument video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CepReFen4Aw

This is how i have hit the final nail in the globe-earth theory :
final blow 1 x : http://i.imgur.com/Pz3644D.jpg
final blow 2 x : http://i.imgur.com/MlGBWOT.jpg
Diagrams above destroy ROUND earth dreams ONCE AND FOR ALL!
Accompanying video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIxzvKUmpSU#t=26m26s

We can look at this issue from this perspective, also :

AUTUMN EQUINOX - TROPIC OF CANCER : http://i.imgur.com/xBkrft3.jpg
AUTUMN EQUINOX - TROPIC OF CAPRICORN : http://i.imgur.com/mdr0Oxc.jpg
VERNAL EQUINOX - TROPIC OF CANCER : http://i.imgur.com/bDpv5DY.jpg
VERNAL EQUINOX - TROPIC OF CAPRICORN : http://i.imgur.com/NvxH3lD.jpg

A QUESTION FOR HC-BELIEVERS :

If you believe that you can easily get your head around these curves (and explain them away from the HC point of view) then feel free to use the principles of your (insane and utterly erroneous) theory and teach us the exact mechanics of these CURVES (and their spatial orientation), which i have presented to you in above pictures?

One quote taken out from one discussion on my FINAL BLOW argument :

"If you still want to refute validity of my argumentation (in the context of my FINAL BLOW argument) you have to be aware that by doing this you basically invalidate heliocentric explanation for the mechanics of changes of height angles of the sun during the day in the northern hemisphere (during the northern summer), and in the southern hemisphere (during the southern summer). YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH IN THE SAME TIME.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS THIS : Explain to us the mechanics of changes of height angles of the sun during the day in the northern hemisphere (during the northern summer), and in the southern hemisphere (during the southern summer).

Same goes to my ZIGZAG argument. They attempted to refute it on the basis of "small parallax" attempt of evasion, but they can't use such stupid excuse because they should instantly have to discard heliocentric explanation for the mechanics of changes (the alleged rotation of the earth) of the sun's (EAST-WEST) position in the sky during the first half (12 hours) of the Polar Day.

A GYROSCOPE PROOF IN FAVOR OF THE FLATNESS OF THE EARTH :

Had heliocentrist' claim(s) been right they would have demonstrated a long ago A GYRO PROOF for the rotation of the earth by performing an experiment which we could call : "A GYROSCOPE AT THE EQUATOR experiment" : http://i.imgur.com/ovEAXPW.jpg
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odiupicku 14 hours ago (edited)
+John le Bon THE SECOND POST :

As you could see from my previous post one thing is ABSOLUTELY sure : THE EARTH IS MOTIONLESS!!! If the Earth is motionless then everything falls to pieces, the only solution that remains is the Flat Earth scenario!

However, the flat earth theory has it's flaws, also :

1. Until this very day no one has come up with a sane proposal for the correct flat earth map. After watching this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqWmjtbGs-M
i came to the conclusion that all flat earth maps (that i have seen so far) are definitely wrong.
2. Equator problem (the distance between the North Pole and the Equator doesn't correspond to the (alleged or true (i don't know)) circumference of the Equator. If the Flat Earth were true than the circumference of the Tropic of Cancer would be 40 000 km, the circumference of the Equator would be about 54 000 km, and the circumference of the Tropic of Cancer would be about 68 000 km. This is serious question and we (flat-earthers) have to have enough courage and honesty to deal with these serious round-earth objections!
3. Southern "circumpolar" constellations...

So, we have found ourselves in a totally crazy situation :

The only map that makes sense (regarding distances between continental masses) is a globe earth map, but we have presented (MY PERSPECTIVE, P-BRAIN, MY LITTLE ME, just to name a few of us) many ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS AND ABSOLUTELY IRREFUTABLE arguments in favor of the flatness of the earth, so that we can be absolutely sure that the surface of the earth is really flat.

BUT, HUSTON, WE GOT A PROBLEM:
We can't declare absolute victory as long as we are unable to give absolutely valid and convincing answers to those serious objections which round-earthers constantly put forward to us.

I have made this video with purpose to open friendly discussion to which i invite everyone with open minds, everyone who think that we can work together in our brave pursuit for the ONE AND ONLY TRUTH, no matter what will come out as the final result of our sincere quest for that ULTIMATE TRUTH.
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odiupicku 7 hours ago (edited)
+musclecar rocklover 1. The best proof that the so called "Earth Rate Correction" is a notorious hoax is the ABSOLUTELY PROVEN FACT that the earth is at rest. I repeat : ABSOLUTELY PROVEN FACT!!!

2. The true (hidden) meaning (which is of a great importance regarding the essence of our discussion) of "a cross check procedure" in airplanes is this : All the instruments which pilots use for their (blind) orientation in the cockpit of an airplane are totally independent devices, so that they can rely on other instruments in the case of emergency (if certain failure in functioning of any particular instrument in the cockpit of the airplane occurred)!

3. If the earth were a globe VSI data would NEVER match Artificial Horizon indications!!! In a very short period of time (within a few seconds - depending on the speed of the aircraft) any attempt to fly STRAIGHT AND LEVEL would be obstructed in a following manner : Artificial Horizon would permanently indicate that an aircraft is climbing up, although VSI would never show any change at all, since there would be no difference in air pressure while aircraft SOMEHOW manages to maintain the same altitude!!! In other words Artificial Horizon would be of no use whatsoever!!!

4. IF THE EARTH WERE A SPINNING GLOBE & if a gyroscope is set SPINNING ON THE EQUATOR with its spinning axis horizontal in an EAST and WEST direction it will appear to make one revolution a day about an axis at right angles to the spinning axis.

At the end of 12 hours the gyroscope would appear to have reversed ends, though actually it would continue to point just as it did at the start, only the earth would have made a half revolution.

Also, IF THE EARTH WERE A SPINNING GLOBE & if a spinning gyroscope WERE CARRIED AROUND the earth along a north and south meridian, passing over the two poles, it would constantly change its angle so that the horizontal spinning axis would always be at right angles to a vertical line from the earth's center.

Had heliocentrist' claim(s) been right they would have demonstrated a long ago "A GYRO PROOF" for the rotation of the earth by carrying out such an experiment.

I am absolutely sure that they would have
even installed at the EQUATOR(long time ago)
one big gyroscope made out of pure gold
which would permanently (EVERY DAY)
make one revolution a day about an axis
at right angles to the spinning axis of
the spinning earth-globe, so that everyone
in the world can visit (at least once
in his/her lifetime) HC sanctum where
such a perfect proof for the rotation of the
earth hypothesis would be at disposition
24 hours a day to every single flat earther
who would ever dare to doubt that the
earth spins like a hell since the first day
of creation.

THE FLAT EARTH - A GYRO AT THE EQUATOR : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qD-eMh4DYc

AN EXPERTS SPEAK ON THE GYROSCOPE MECHANICS OF WORK AND USAGE IN AVIATION AND NAVY : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMh1uGLbWoA#t=20m24s
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http://heliocentric-theory-is-false.blogspot.com/2013/06/moving-earth-deception-page-1.html ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, We (true science Geocentrists) are 100% sure that the Earth is STATIONARY because the unattached atmosphere (a gas) cannot be "gripped" and rotated along with the alleged rotation of the Earth, and we experience no 1,038 mph winds as a result of this rotation. Helocentrists will do anything to avoid and redirect the topic or issue in the conversation (thirty-eight debating tricks) to something else (like the phases of Venus, etc.) because a rotating Earth is their Big Lie is the basis, the bedrock foundation, the chief cornerstone, the taproot of their entire edifice of cosmic lies and deceptions. Pull a rotating Earth away and their entire mathematical, hypothetical model collapses. Talk to any chemistry professor or Ph.D. who understands the properties of the States of Matter (and who is not a fool) and they will confirm this foundational issue of the interaction between "solids, liquids and gases".
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Gav Anthony Nice I like it. 2 birds with one stone. Proof the sun is close and proof the Earth is flat. Cheers mate! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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FE Experiments 6 hours ago (edited)
The bipolar flat earth map could be more correct than the standard map. See,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=misery_index/azimuthal_equidistant=31.55,21.09,145
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https://youtu.be/UYS9EuGWNAk?t=361 ...........................luke 17:30-34 tells us that when the son of man comes in the day and in the night OVER THE FLAT EARTH .... ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Luke 17:30-34New American Standard Bible (NASB)
30 It will be [a]just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to keep his [b]life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left.
CAN IT BE NIGHT AND DAY AT THE SAME TIME ............. YEPPER ON A FLAT EARTH ............AND JESUS AND NOAH AND MOSES ALL KNEW THE EARTH WAS FLAT ...
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" This , of course, is not the whole story <<<however>>>> this is a >>>great tool<<<< to use to show others how much >>>deceit there is out there<<<< and we just blindly follow what we are taught in school,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Why Flat Earth?? It was changed from flat to round about 500 years ago by the Freemasons. For one, it's the biggest money scam of all time and Dubay put it well: “So this modern atheistic, Big Bang, heliocentric globe earth, chance evolution, paradigm spiritually controls humanity by removing God or any sort of intelligent design from the mind and replaces purposeful divine creation with haphazard random cosmic coincidence. And so by removing Earth from the motionless center of the universe these Masons have moved us physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference. If the Earth is the center of the Universe then the ideas of God creation and a purpose for human existence are resplendent, but if the Earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars and billions of galaxies then the ideas of God creations and a specific purpose of for Earth and human existence become highly implausible.”Eric Dubay, The Flat Earth Conspiracy*****“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” – George Orwell
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Ground positioning system applied in a distance measuring device
US 6346980 B1
Abstract
A ground positioning system integrated with a distance measuring device that detects the distance from the device to a selected object for each pixel of the captured image of the selected object. The system, which also includes an azimuth sensor, calculates ground positioning coordinates of a selected object that correspond to a certain pixel of captured image using distance information, device ground positioning coordinates and device direction information.
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Here is a great expose of why gyroscope proves the Flat Earth.

Interesting link of a discussion between a submarine chief officer and a Navy Missile Instructor about how gyroscope proves the flat earth: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFi98T8phoI
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Flat Earth Science and the Bible added 3 new photos.
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TEN FLATTEST PLACES ON EARTH EQUALS TOO MUCH FLAT FOR THEIR TO BE A CURVE
Much of earth's land is FLAT! The ten flattest places in the world represent over 106,400 square miles of completely flat land and water with zero curvature! The earth is 71% water which always finds its level and remains flat when undisturbed. This means approximately 139,933,729 square miles of Earth's surface is FLAT! How can you have hundreds of thousands of square miles of FLATNESS on a ball? NASA claims the earth is 24,901 miles in circumference. This means there should be an 8" squared drop below the horizon for every mile you see in distance. Use the curvature formula to calculate what we should be seeing, but we don't. The earth is FLAT!

1.) The Danikil Desert in Ethiopia is 38610.22 square miles of flat barren desert.

2.) In Bolivia, Salar de Uyuni spreads over 10,582 square kilometers (4,086 sq mi), which is roughly 100 times the size of the Bonneville Salt Flats in the United States. It is completely flat like a giant mirror. If the earth was curved you wouldn't be able to see a perfect reflection on the water like a mirror. But that is what you see, because it's completely flat!

3.) Bonneville Salt flat, Utah- 46 square miles. They claim its so flat you can see the earth's curvature. So that would mean there should be 1066 feet drop of noticeable curvature on the salt FLATS! Is that what we see...um no...it's just really flat.

4.) The Maldives- 35,000 square miles of flat water and islands that are all level with each other. There is no curve.

5.) Lake Bakail in Siberia is 12,248 square miles. It is 395 miles long. That means the other end of the lake should be 104,016 feet below the opposite side of the lake or 19.7 miles of curvature...how is this possible? The lake is completely flat because it freezes over every winter and you can drive across the lake.

6.) Wadi Rum, Jordan also known as The Valley of the Moon is a valley cut into the sandstone and granite rock in southern Jordan 60 km (37 mi) to the east of Aqaba; it is the largest wadi in Jordan. It is 278 square miles of flat desert and you can see the mountains across it.

7.) The Makgadikgadi Salt Pans in Botswana incorporates a multitude of salt pans and vast grass plains dotted by palm islands and forms the Great Makgadikagidi which comprise the largest area of salt pans in the world covering some 37 000 sq km in overall extent. The salt pans themselves cover 6,200 sq mi (16,057.9 km2) in the Kalahari Basin and form the bed of the ancient Lake Makgadikgadi, which evaporated many millennia ago. The largest individual salt pan is 1,900 sq miles. These salt pans are completely flat!

8.) The Everglades in Florida are 734 square miles of wetlands on top of a flat limestone shelf. The system begins near Orlando with the Kissimmee River, which discharges into the vast but shallow Lake Okeechobee. Water leaving the lake in the wet season forms a slow-moving river 60 miles (97 km) wide and over 100 miles (160 km) long, flowing southward across a limestone shelf.

9.) The Schleswig-Holstein Wadden Sea National Park is the largest national park in central Europe. One third of Schleswig Holsteins belongs to the largest continuous mudflats landscape of the earth, which stretches from the North Sea coast of the Netherlands all the way to Denmark. With an area of 1702.711mi² it is by far the largest national park in Germany. There the mudflats are 24 mi wide in places.

10.) Cloncurry, Australia is situated 500 miles from the north Queensland coast, more or less in the middle of nowhere, in the Australian outback. It gets very little water and is located in one of the flattest parts of the Outback.

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Karlee Sunshine Midrano
I created a Flat Earth awareness brochure.
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The first two images are JPEG files. I am sharing them so anyone and everyone may print them and hand them out. ( Save them to a folder, and press and hold CTRL button to highlight both images when you print. Set printer to do front and back printing) Lets start using our talents to spread the truth about Earth outside of our bubbles in our groups. If you choose to use these brochures, I would love feedback!!! Take pictures handing them out, videotape your experience sharing the truth. Let's "Help them see" .
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Rob Skiba
· at the very end, the translator tells me that up until about 1917 Flat Earth was the normal curriculum in the Russian public schools!

So, I was just interviewed for a Russian talk show/blog. First time doing an interview through translator. Tough for a guy like me who rambles a million miles an hour. Anyway... at the very end, the translator tells me that up until about 1917 Flat Earth was the normal curriculum in the Russian public schools! I was like WHAT!?? Seriously? The show had nothing to do with that topic, but the interpreter had seen some of my work on that subject and just thought I should know this interesting tid-bit of info.

at the very end, the translator tells me that up until about 1917 Flat Earth was the normal curriculum in the Russian public schools!
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Zion, Illinois was the American center of Flat Earth theory in the early-to-mid 20th Century. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

It was a small community (roughly 6,000) focused largely on the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church, headed at first by John Alexander Dowie and later by Wilbur Glenn Voliva, the latter being one of America's most prominent Flat Earth proponents in the 20th Century. Zion reached its peak in the Flat Earth movement in the 1920's and 1930's, although interest began to wane after Voliva's death in 1942.

Zion remains a small city of roughly 25,000 residents. The Christian Catholic Apostolic Church has since been renamed the Christ Community Church and functions as a Protestant Evangelical church.
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p43.htm wrote:
In America flat-earthism became a central doctrine of Wilbur Glenn Voliva's Christian Catholic Apostolic Church in Zion, Illinois. During the 1920s and 1930s, thousands of residents of Zion were at least nominally flat-earthers. In some families three generations learned the flat-earth doctrine in Zion parochial schools. From his 100,000 watt radio station, Voliva used to thunder against &quot;the Devil's triplets, Evolution, Higher Criticism, and Modern Astronomy.&quot; The popularity of flat-earthism declined in America after Voliva's death in 1942

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1jeL7VpImI .. The Censorship of Geocentrism by Victor the Baptist ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SCIENTIFIC PROOF the earth is the center of the universe https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=53&v=YHykDpLQelw ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuaB5fVr0Ao
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Rob Skiba
3 hrs ·

So I just received an interesting e-mail, challenging me with a "bet" (see: https://youtu.be/85galP92VnM)

This was my response...

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Thanks for writing and for your "challenge/bet." I can appreciate your frustration regarding this subject. It is VERY frustrating on both sides of the debate. However, you called me a "flat earther" which simply is not true. Time after time, after time I have said I'm just a "questioning globalist (i.e. believer in the globe)." I said that in the early days of my investigation so many times I've lost count. I have since moved to referring to myself as a "Zetetic Agnostic" (someone who is proceeding with inquiry, while not believing either position is 100% provable). In fact, that's where I have left off in my conclusion (on my Testing The Globe website) concerning this matter, when I wrote:

"Therefore, what, you may ask is my conclusion? Do I still believe in the globe or have I become a Flat Earther? Well, I only feel comfortable enough at this point to wear the label of a Zetetic Agnostic - by that I mean, I have not yet been fully convinced by either model, so my inquiry continues. Some may consider that a cop-out. It isn't. I'm just being brutally honest."

I have tried from day one to be objective about this and to evaluate as much of both sides of the argument as I can. Having believed in the spinning, heliocentric ball for 46 years, I don't think it is at all unreasonable to have spent the better part of JUST 6 months looking at the opposition's point-of-view. I haven't been posting pro-ball-earth videos, because frankly, that would be like posting videos showing that grass is green and the sky is blue. We all know that already, so what's the point? Rather, I've been posting videos about things MOST of us have not known, or thought about - which challenge what we THINK we know. But this does not make me a "flat earther." It makes me someone who is simply trying to be objective, not willing to ignore the evidence that goes against my current or previous beliefs. Isn't that what true science is supposed to be about - looking at all of the evidence and testing it, etc.?

So, here you present me with a challenge/bet. But you do so with the requirement that I believe (or agree with) your 4 questions. Well, sorry. But right there, I'm out...

1) Yes, I do agree that at any given time, the sun is shining.

2) This one is funny and rather ironic, because ballers (globe believers) CONSISTENTLY claim that light does NOT travel in a straight line. In fact, grrrAAAVVIIttttyyyy seems to be able to pull it in any direction they want it to, even allowing for the top of city buildings that should be over a thousand feet below the horizon to magically be seen 60 miles away due to bending light. So, assuming you don't believe the Flat Earth model is true, you ipso facto must likewise believe that light bends all over the place to fit your preconceived ideas. As for what I believe, it is a fact that refraction does take place (just not to the degree, nor the way that ballers claim it does), so I would also have to answer this as: No. I do not believe that light consistently travels in a straight line.

3) While the Flat Earth model does call for the sun to travel in a circle (centered on the "North Pole"), I do not believe it would remain at a constant altitude. In fact, from my research, I'd be more inclined (assuming the FE model is true) to believe that it spirals up and down in its circuit, so this would be a "No" for me too.

4) I am not sure about this one. Is there room for a "fudge factor" in the sun's travel? Possibly. So, I'm not prepared to say that I would agree that the maximum extent of the sun's travel is limited to being precisely right on the line of the two Tropics.

So, at best, I could only completely agree with 1 of your 4 requirements. By this alone, I'd be totally disqualified from participating in your challenge.

Again, I appreciate your frustration in all of this and your desire to "shut everyone else up" who disagrees with you. But even if I did agree with your 4 questions (which I do not), I wouldn't have the $5,000 to give you if I lost the bet. This inquiry has cost me a LOT - and in more ways than just financial. So, all said and done, sorry, but there is simply no way for me to participate in your challenge. That said, without taking your bet, I am intrigued by the test you are proposing. If you care to still share it with me, I would love to check it out. If I decide to perform the test, I will be honest with the results - even as I have with all of my other tests, including the one where I had to debunk myself. But based on your 4 requirements, I am not sure the test would even be worth doing, as it would appear (to me anyway) that your premise may be wrong to begin with. And when you proceed from a false premise (take the preconceived - unprovable - notion that we evolved from a slime pit, which itself was the product of a "Big Bang" for instance), any conclusions you come up with thereafter will be sheer madness.
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Staying on the quest for truth (where ever it may lead me)...
Flat Earth $5000 bet... Loser pays
This is a bet. Agree with 4 questions, I offer you an experiment which You perform and You post the results of, which will disprove Flat Earth. If you are
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Do you believe that we live on a spinning ball?

If your answer is YES you do believe we live on a spinning ball flying through Space, I strongly suggest you watch this short 3 minute video. Just so you are aware of just what you are agreeing with and what you have signed up for with your spinning ball beliefs.

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It's flat