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Kaiser Kuo, profile picture

Oh good Lord, this is ridiculous. If they're as interested in security and stability as they say they are, then they should leave VPNs accessible. The number of people using them in China is really small, but really vocal—and I don't think they'll just take this lying down. Will reflect very badly on the Party. Dark days ahead. Fuck me if I'm going back there during this period if there really aren't any usable VPNs.

BLOOMBERG.COM

China Tells Carriers to Block Access to Personal VPNs by February

The move shuts a major window to the global internet.
Chen Du, profile picture
Chen Du
Kaiser Kuo I've been using other "network tools" with the similar functions of a mobile VPN such as Surge on iOS. P technical. Took me 40 mins or so to learn. Apps like it are not VPN services but a tool that you can use to establish your own secured network. Not an ad.
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JC Ning, profile picture
JC Ning
How could anyone who has had the slightest interest in China be surprised by ANYTHING the Government does, or does not do! Not taking it "lying down"? Why, how else they going to take it? And finally, how has something "reflect badly on the Party" ever affected the Party? Nothing I can recall...
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Terence Hsieh, profile picture
Terence Hsieh
plus xi jinping has his own instagram account. how's he gonna update that?
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Lee Grimshaw, profile picture
Lee Grimshaw
Dude it has started. Lost a few freebies in a week. It's so backward in so many ways. But hey they always need a good old school metal revival. They don't seem to kind that hahahah
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Ralph Litzinger, profile picture
Ralph Litzinger
The Xi regime and Party already look pretty bad. This is just one more move to assert to foreigners and the "vocals" that the Party will do all it can to maintain internet sovereignty and national sovereignty at any cost. I actually deeply appreciate this, because it proves almost all the theories about globalization since 2000- that predicted the increased irrelevance of the state and sovereignty in the form of the nation - wildly wrong.
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Loretta Chao, profile picture
Loretta Chao
This is so stupid, even strategically. You're right, all they do is call more attention to something that didn't even have widespread impact. But I (edit: we all) have been saying this for years, and in that time they actually succeeded in creating an intranet anyway. At the end of the day, I suppose that's all the justification they need. Not that the party believes in justifying itself.
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Shane Patrick, profile picture
Shane Patrick
there will be workarounds, there always is in china- a connected party members cousin will have a stake in a VPN somewhere.
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Magnus Jorem, profile picture
Magnus Jorem
I read somewhere else that this would impact only China-based VPN services, but I suppose if it's the carriers themselves that block them it also goes for services like Astrill?
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Brian Eyler, profile picture
Brian Eyler
Guo Wengui among other factors?
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Maria Bell, profile picture
Maria Bell
Not liking this either.
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Philip Partnow, profile picture
Philip Partnow
Bottom line is this policy is simply consistent with what is turning out to be a fairly reactionary regime. "Party first" and "party at all costs" seem to be the main goals of the Xi administration. I just have to wonder if gripping the body politic so firmly is the best way to accomplish the goal of party supremacy in an increasingly modern, connected and sophisticated China
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Lorenz Kirchner, profile picture
Lorenz Kirchner
golden times ahead for ppl who can help companies stay connected to the actual internet
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Mukhlis Mah, profile picture
Mukhlis Mah
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Michael McDermott, profile picture
Michael McDermott
Have heard this so often in the past, but never 100% block. Surely hope this time is no different.
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Lorenz Kirchner, profile picture
Lorenz Kirchner
It's interesting that by doing that the Chinese authorities are inadvertently participants in creating a stronger more censorship resilient internet, which is something that is needed not only in China
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Cecilia Miao, profile picture
Cecilia Miao
it seems the strings are usually pulled tight around this time of the year...
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Webster Lewin, profile picture
Webster Lewin
Hit back where it counts: #DivestChina We need a global campaign to push China towards greater freedom. Liquidate Chinese investments until they make progress on that.
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Carl Hoopingarner, profile picture
Carl Hoopingarner
If it actually does happen (doubt there won't be a way to use VPN's) I will not live here. I have a lot to change if that's the case but it just won't be fun here anymore.
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Derek Harkness, profile picture
Derek Harkness
There are still other ways to bypass the GFW. It might cost a little more and be harder to set up, but those who need to will always find a way.
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Sharon Lu, profile picture
Sharon Lu
It's come to the point where its entirely worthwhile to launch your own low orbital cubesat above airspace with ground station control to receive your telemetry. Just need someone to launch one above north America or Europe to pair for earth's rotation
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Lena Elsborg, profile picture
Lena Elsborg
Blocking all VPN services in China would be suicidal .. How would foreign business and foreigners be able to survive in China then? I don't believe they'll shut down everything.'
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Christopher Chen, profile picture
Christopher Chen
that won't affect foreign VPNs although it would be deemed illegal to use them (that's if you get caught, though) while you are still inside Mainland China.
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Shelby Exline McKean, profile picture
Shelby Exline McKean
A part of me has just died.
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Dai-Kyu Kim, profile picture
Dai-Kyu Kim
I stopped jiggling multiple VPNs (free and paid) or plugging into friends' overseas servers and just used roaming data on a foreign SIM since they were allowed to bypass the GFW last year. Not really a price effective option for long term foreigners, but if you're just visiting it's manageable and simple and you can still see Xi Jinping's Instagram posts in a timely fashion.
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David Almstrom, profile picture
David Almstrom
It could also just be that the carriers have close down the local DNS service that made it really easy to circumvene GFW. I was surprised lately to have unblocked Internet traffic at hotels in BJ n SH but maybe to OBOR conference
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Dai-Kyu Kim, profile picture
Dai-Kyu Kim
I understand it to be a specific approved policy by the telcos for roaming SIMs. I guess Chinese telcos also like data roaming fees!
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Dai-Kyu Kim, profile picture
Dai-Kyu Kim
Not sure about your hotel situation, but the GFW is as much hit and miss as it is a tight net. Things open and close seemingly without structure. Often due to operator error or other prevailing network conditions.
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Matt Fulco, profile picture
Matt Fulco
I wonder how much of this is related to political maneuvering ahead of November's Party Congress. Certainly, President Xi Jinping needs to look as strong as possible if he is to get what he wants, and asserting sovereignty over Chinese cyberspace is a great way to do that. There is a long-term trend in China of tightening digital control, but blocking all VPN access sounds draconian.
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Sharon Lu, profile picture
Sharon Lu
Your Firewall is my Gateway Drug, to paraprhase Bezos. Any possibility of someone starting a WOFE Co, leasing its own fibre from Japan like most of the tech multinationals, and then offering company VPN to its own 'employees.'
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Anton Radmall, profile picture
Anton Radmall
I better start embracing the dark ages. All of my internet use revolves around the use of a VPN. 😔
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