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Discussion Group for artists, musicians, developers and all creatives who sell their works as digital products/e-services about the new EU VAT laws which came into effect on January 1st 2015.

This FacebookMore Discussion Group is independent from any campaign team, with no campaign agendas of it's own. Our primary concern is that both VAT registered and unregistered members might have a place to freely and openly discuss EU VAT matters as they come to a quiet understanding of what they need to do next for their own businesses.

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Paul Soper, profile picture

As one of the group admins can I explain that this group was set up in 2014 because of the new rules on e-services which were established from January 2015 and all of the difficulties that small traders faced because of that. Another threat to small traders is the Making Tax Digital (MTD) Project which is starting imminently. Whilst I am quiteMore happy to offer advice on this topic too there seems to be nothing else on Facebook dedicated to MTD other than a couple of accounting firms touting for business. Can I ask that if someone does post on MTD rather than e-services and international VAT members don't don't weigh in with suggestions unless they really know what they are talking about...

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Dana Oliver De Groot, profile picture

I’m an American who sells digital services (subscription based) world wide. What is the best/easiest place I can go to understand the VAT tax in the UK and in the EU? I will not be able to turn a profit because of this tax, but I’m trying to understand it so I can properly implement it.

Paul Soper, profile picture

Guidance from HMRC concerning the situation from 1 January 2021 onwards -

GOV.UK

Pay VAT when you sell digital services to EU consumers from 1 January 2021

If you're a UK business find out how to declare sales and pay VAT if you sell digital services to EU consumers from 1 January 2021.
Mo Holkar, profile picture

Hi all, I have a question which it feels like the answer ought to be well-known, but I've not been able to find it and wondered if any of you might know!

So we are a UK business selling e-services to the EU, and for the last few years we've been using the HMRC MOSS to manage paying the VAT on these.

My understanding is that as of the end ofMore this month, that will no longer be in operation, and instead we will need to register with the MOSS of one of the EU countries, such as Ireland, under their non-union scheme.

My question is: does the registration threshold of EUR 10,000 apply in this case? -- or is that only for registrations under the union scheme, ie. for suppliers who are within the EU?

Rich Mellor, profile picture

Are small businesses across the globe ready?

GLOBALVATCOMPLIANCE.COM

EU: New VAT rules applying to B2C E-Commerce trades in the European Union as of 1 July 2021 - Global VAT Compliance

Various VAT rates currently apply to their services depending on their nature and the place of residence of the clients (e.g. transport services, catering services, leasing of means of transport, etc.).
Paul Soper, profile picture

Here's an update without warning what happens next - but still useful information -

GOV.UK

Changes to the VAT MOSS rate for the UK and EU countries

Find out about changes to the rates for VAT Mini One Stop Shop (VAT MOSS) for the UK and countries in the EU.
David Wedge, profile picture

Hi, I'm UK based and getting ready to launch a series of ebooks which I will be selling in english speaking countries globally via affiliates. I have been talking with my accountant but he is a bit out of depth on this one, until now I have just been selling services in the UK. Can anybody point me at any sources of information about the salesMore taxes I may need to collect? I am using a sales platform which can automatically collect Taxes based on the address of the purchaser but I really dont understand what I should be doing here. Research using Google has left me more confused than when I started. Many thanks

Rich Mellor, profile picture

Typical - it has taken a business in New Zealand to warn me (as a small online marketplace) that the UK has determined to follow the EU example on collecting VAT for goods sold into the UK.

If the total orderMore is less than £135, from 1st January 2021, the overseas seller (or marketplace) will be responsible for collecting and paying the UK VAT -

GOV.UK

Changes to VAT treatment of overseas goods sold to customers from 1 January 2021

These new arrangements will apply to sales of goods to GB customers where the consignment does not exceed £135 in value. This aligns with the threshold for relief from customs duty, thus minimising the impact on customs procedures. Consignments above that value will remain subject to existing custo...
Bob Buckley, profile picture

Do you have a 'live' element to your membership business?

Something like a live Q&A, live lessons or personal consulting over Skype?

Could you shed some light on how you handle EU VAT Moss payments for VAT in the EU?

We have a hybrid automated/live membership and I'm looking for clarification, other than the nonsensical EU VAT Moss website...😄

AsMore far as I can see, having a personal live element in an online program seems to exempt us from charging VAT to EU members.

What's your experience been?

Cheers and thanks for a brilliant Community here.

Bob

Paul Soper, profile picture
Latest EU VAT news - a further complication if we leave without a deal on 31.12.2020 - the new EU rules are deferred to 1 July 2021 - Morehttps://www.taxjournal.com/articles/vat-e-commerce-package-delayed?utm_source=101620_EM_14&utm_medium=email&utm_content=https%3a%2f%2fwww.taxjournal.com%2farticles%2fvat-e-commerce-package-delayed&utm_campaign=Tax+Journal+Newsletter+15+May+2020+2020+Prospects

TAXJOURNAL.COM

VAT e-commerce package delayed

In response to the Covid-19 pandemic, the European Commission has also proposed to postpone the entry into application of the VAT e-commerce package by six months, to apply from 1 July 2021 rather than from 1 January 2021.​
Paul Soper, profile picture

Surprise announcement today concerning epublications. The government were going to apply zero-rating from 1 December 2020 but they have now decided to bring that forward - to tomorrow! Don't buy any books from Amazon Kindle tonight! Will they reduce their prices? You should all note this too if you supply epublications

GOV.UK

VAT: zero rating e-publications

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Laura Watton-Davies, profile picture

Hi team. Does this new UK govt legislation mean we are free to sell epubs to whoever we want wherever they purchase from, and does this cover PDF books too?
Thank you! Hope you are well and coping ok during covid19 - Laura

Joanne Tinley, profile picture

Morning everyone, I hope you're all well! Could I double check something with you please?

I have the opportunity to sell my video classes through a third-party website. I already advertise my in-studio workshops with them and they have been great to work with and I'd happy to work with them in their new venture especially as I'd be one of the firstMore providers on the site. They want students to pay for the courses on their website, charge a commission and then send the students to my New Zenler website to watch the videos and download the supporting PDFs.

Their accountant has told them that they are not liable to deal with VATMOSS as they are not hosting the courses themselves, only taking… More

Clare Ardali, profile picture

Probably a stupid question, but I am considering registering for vat and vatmoss rather than using my current payment processor who handles it all for me. Am I right in assuming that, even if I am below the actual vat threshold and was only applying in order to register for vatmoss, that I would still then have to apply vat on any physical goods I sell?